Quite Shocking Fuzz [+ demo]

[Bret608]

Dude, if I could find someone to make me some enclosures like that, I don't think I would use anything else again, especially for fuzz!

This sounds fantastic--the way the octave is blended in is just more ear-pleasing than most. Love the playing too! I tend to just brainstorm on the guitar as well. My wife always jokes that I never play real songs! 

[Cortexturizer]

Haha yeah that's exactly the type of stuff I was getting from my girlfriend as well )) I guess some girls just can't understand infinite shredding

[ch1naski]

That really is some awesome sounds and playing, man.
Question about the circuit: did you just remove the fuzz control from the octave circuit and route it through the other fuzz circuit? I mean the shocktave produces it's own fuzz, right?  

Can you tell I want to build this?

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[pryde]

Fantastic build and nice chops to boot. You sir, are talented 

[studiodunn]

That is awesome man! Love the graphics and the build.

[ch1naski]

I rarely listen to a demo more than once. I'm on the third with yours.
Bravo, bravo.

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[slimtriggers]

That is a really great sounding fuzz!  Nice work

[Cortexturizer]

You do me so much honor gentlemen!

There's a lot more noodlin' on my Soundcloud channel so ch1naski check it out mate
If there's a topic where forum members can post their music I'd like to contribute to that as well, I've been recording a bunch of ideas lately.

Question about the circuit: did you just remove the fuzz control from the octave circuit and route it through the other fuzz circuit? I mean the shocktave produces it's own fuzz, right?  

Heh, well I tried a million combinations, buff n blend, fet mixers of other kinds, yada yada, but what I ended up doing was just running the Shocktave straight into the Superfuzz and hard-wiring it that way. Now, the volume and fuzz are crancked on the Shocktave ALL THE TIME I used trimpots as you could see on the pictures, BUT I made the Shocktave's MIX control an exterior pot. That way I can go clean on the shoctave running into the Superfuzz, , or any amount of octave down I want. Still, having the volume crancked all the way on the Shocktave turned to be too much for the Superfuzz's input, so it's kind of squishy and it has kind of an envelope filtery effect when you play, but that's just when the volume pot on your guitar is on full, put it like on half and the sound turns to a hundred percent Superfuzz. I could make the pedal more versatile by having more knobs on the enclosure but I didn't want that, I hate lots of knobs, 4 is kind of like my limit  

I use the volume and tone controls on my guitar A LOT, and I like to think of pedals as an extension of that, so a lot of the sounds you've been listening to throughout the demo was made by using different pickup combinations and various volume and tone settings on the guitar.

I'm really glad you all like this so much. Really enjoying the forum so far, and I have seen some CRAZY builds out there, that are nothing like mine, just waaaay more professional and better looking.
Cheers mates!

[ch1naski]

You do me so much honor gentlemen!

There's a lot more noodlin' on my Soundcloud channel so ch1naski check it out mate
If there's a topic where forum members can post their music I'd like to contribute to that as well, I've been recording a bunch of ideas lately.

Question about the circuit: did you just remove the fuzz control from the octave circuit and route it through the other fuzz circuit? I mean the shocktave produces it's own fuzz, right?  

Heh, well I tried a million combinations, buff n blend, fet mixers of other kinds, yada yada, but what I ended up doing was just running the Shocktave straight into the Superfuzz and hard-wiring it that way. Now, the volume and fuzz are crancked on the Shocktave ALL THE TIME I used trimpots as you could see on the pictures, BUT I made the Shocktave's MIX control an exterior pot. That way I can go clean on the shoctave running into the Superfuzz, , or any amount of octave down I want. Still, having the volume crancked all the way on the Shocktave turned to be too much for the Superfuzz's input, so it's kind of squishy and it has kind of an envelope filtery effect when you play, but that's just when the volume pot on your guitar is on full, put it like on half and the sound turns to a hundred percent Superfuzz. I could make the pedal more versatile by having more knobs on the enclosure but I didn't want that, I hate lots of knobs, 4 is kind of like my limit  

I use the volume and tone controls on my guitar A LOT, and I like to think of pedals as an extension of that, so a lot of the sounds you've been listening to throughout the demo was made by using different pickup combinations and various volume and tone settings on the guitar.

I'm really glad you all like this so much. Really enjoying the forum so far, and I have seen some CRAZY builds out there, that are nothing like mine, just waaaay more professional and better looking.
Cheers mates!

some of your playing and sounds reminds me of Jeff Beck on his later albums and live shows (my favorite guitar player, next to Hendrix, tied with Page).

pretty nifty:)
Did you build the Shocktave off of a layout and modify it, or go from a schematic?

[Cortexturizer]

Well you sure know how to choose a player to be your favorite I LOVE Jeff Beck.

I used Derringer's Shocktave vero layout, no modifications really, I just subbed R6 or was it R5? for a trimpot so that I could get EXACTLY 4.5V on the collector of Q2 [?] so yeah, that gives you the best octave. You should match the transistors as closely as you can but some people say it's not really necessary...I used transistor that have about 440 hfe. I used a mixture of 2n5088's and BC550C's, but you can use anything really.
Other than that, I subbed Volume and Gain with 1M and 2,5K trimpots, respectively. I left the volume almost all the way [maybe 75%] and the gain on full. That's about it Cheers!

[gingataff]

I love this pedal.
The octaves sound amazing and the enclosure is perfect. I'm looking forward to your pasty face.

[Cortexturizer]

Thank you friend! Parts arriving these days for the bender, and I thought of some really cool finish ideas so I expect it to come out really great. Can't wait!

[ch1naski]

So, I let my son listen to your demo, he really dug it. So I'm gonna build him one, but do you think a standard fuzz face circuit has enough gusto to make the octave noticeable? I think the super fuzz puts puts a bit more signal through, no?

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[Cortexturizer]

Hm, it's Shocktave INTO the Superfuzz, not the other way around, so making a fuzz face instead of the superfuzz will result in no upper octave tones. That, and if I were you, I would wire a dpdt toggle switch on the way of the Shocktave towards the Superfuzz in a true bypass sort of manner, so that your boy could have superfuzz-only tones. Now as to why I haven't done that to my build...well, I don't like to many knobs, switches, and everything, and this sounded good and usable to me, as someone that can pretty much get straight superfuzz tones by fiddlin' with guitar controls anyway.

Note that the Shocktave gets very easily confused by treble content in the signal! So, if you or your son are using Strats, then I would advise to look elsewhere for the octave downage. I have an SG, a tele with hot mid oriented pickups, and a Strat. The tracking of the octave on the Strat is very bad.

If anything else interests you, or anybody else, just ask, because I would feel guilty if you spend lots of time building this and conclude that it doesn't work for you. It's not a kind of pedal that will sound spectacular whatever guitar you run into it, and fiddling with the volume and tone knobs is a must if you wanna get some of those tones like on my demo. Just saying.
Still, if you or your son end up not seeing any use of this effect wired combined like I did with mine, you can always run it separately, 2-in-1 sort of, cause they both sound great for what they are.

Good luck!

[ch1naski]

Thanks for the detailed reply. I totally forgot that it was fuzz AFTER shocktave.
I threw a vero together last night, only to find that I don't have a 1 meg audio pot, or trimmer. So while I wait for that to come in with my parts odder, I reckon I can try my hand at building the super fuzz.

The kid has a strat with a bridge hb , and he plays my 67 sg special (maybe the octave will like p-90's). So he'll be ok.
The super fuzz seems a bit tricky to get right, from what I've read. We shall see:)

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