Setting vero layout: did i do this wrong

[icecycle66]

I am working on my first vero board.
I think i put this together backwards, or upside down...maybe both.

I thought, when looking at the layout, that I was looking from top down; where the copper strips were visible.  Which side of the vero board am i looking at when reading the layout?
 

Did I do this wrong?
I'm getting some strange problems with it, and before I get too deep into trouble shooting, I want to make sure this is correct  in the first place.

[jkokura]

Yeah... usually you build on the other side. Not sure if the layout would work like you've got it, but you could easily take those parts off and flip the pcb over.

Jacob

[jimilee]

Yeah... usually you build on the other side. Not sure if the layout would work like you've got it, but you could easily take those parts off and flip the pcb over.

Jacob

Technically this would be considered backwards I think, right?

[icecycle66]

Thanks.
Now I have tomorrows project.

[jimilee]

Think of it like soldering and etched board, unless you've never done that either, then read some tutorials over at tagboard effects. I'm slowly starting a vero project for the first time myself.

[icecycle66]

I thought it would be like an etched board, but it was so obvius that the vero layout had the copper strips up.

But, I guess not.

[davent]

I'm just starting off on this vero/strip board journey as well and really enjoying the simplicity of it, hands down winner over perf. As was mentioned, tagboard has a couple  tutorials that are a great help in getting started not to mention a huge library of verified layouts to draw from.

http://tagboardeffects.blogspot.ca/2012/04/vero-build-guide.html
http://tagboardeffects.blogspot.ca/2012/09/vero-layout-guide.html

dave

[snz728]

Wow I can see how you mixed it up. I'm curious if it has continuity and works. You must have had a hard time soldering it should have components on the plastic side and all solder and cuts on the copper side

[icecycle66]

I had some trouble once I got to the middle of the board, you'll see some melted plastic on that big box cap.

It, sort of works.  It passes clean signal when engaged;  I don't know why.

[jimilee]

Is that big box in the middle polarized? Looks like you have a film cap and it is listed as an electro

[snz728]

And use a drill bit by hand and just twist it enough to scrape out the copper you don't need to go too deep you can leave the plastic intact, just a little divit  that breaks continuity,once you got it, Vero is the poor man's friend

[bigmufffuzzwizz]

You could technically build it the way you did but I wouldn't recommend it. I have however seen pics of builds in the way you've done it.
Remember trace cuts are placed looking from the top (non copper side) so when you flip the board you must do the same to the trace cuts. It's simple, for example if its the 2nd hole from the left (looking from non copper side) when you flip you'd cut the 2nd hole from the right.
I started with dragonfly's layout gallery, he's got tons of easy vero projects that are great to start with. His One knob colorsound overdriver has a nice tutorial as well! Check it out.

[Hangingmonkey]

I did something similar when i did my first etch. I drew a copy of the pcb design with a sharpie because i had a difficult time doing toner transfer but i forgot to reverse the layout and then was scratching my head wondering why it wasnt working. Still, all the fun of diy...

[Obie bong kanobie]

Hey sorry to write on a old topic but I was wondering how your build turned out in the end. There's so much to learn at first so don't beat yourself up for any mistakes you make because it's a opportunity to learn troubleshooting skills which eventually no matter how good you are your going to need.  Hope you ended up with a working effect and keep rockin 🤘

[Willybomb]

I don't know that I 'love' vero, but I have more luck with that than etched boards. But what I like about it is I can just go 'let's build that' on a whim and I can, general part availability not withstanding, like I did with a phase 45 last night.

What I hate is outboard wiring, and after having my first experience with board mounted pots I don't know that I want to go back!