Help me with this fuzz tone

[MacHeath]

Hi all,

I have a question regarding this song by Nick Cave and Warren Ellis. I'm very interested in what you guys make of this tone; what pedal/effect/amp do you hear?

Here's the link:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BK6xfxJVZvc

Ever since I saw the episode of True Detective where this features in the ending 2 years back, the guitar tone on this song has stuck in my head. Especially that of the guitar solo that starts around 1:10.

Thanks a lot and looking forward to your thoughts!

-M.

[somnif]

I know, traditionally speaking, a lot of Nick Cave's tones come from "cheap" guitars run through tweed-ish amps with everything turned to 11. I'll see if I can dig a bit further into this particular track, but that would be a place to start.

[somnif]

Ok, apparently Warren Ellis is also particularly fond of an old  Colorsound fuzz wah, another place to look. The demos of it I can find on youtube do sound similar to the track in question, with the fuzz engaged without touching the wah treadle.

[MacHeath]

Hey somnif, thanks for your answers! Will definitely look into the colorsound fuzz, it sure sounds promising!

[Doorlord]

You could get close with a Foxx Tone Machine

[cajone5]

I think the colorsound fuzz wah used a circuit similar to the colorsound 1-knob fuzz.  There are great repro's of both the 1-knob fuzz (also a simple one to DIY) and the wow fuzz (fuzz wah).  More info on the D*A*M site...

http://www.stompboxes.co.uk/wowfuzz.html

http://www.macaris.co.uk/one-knob-fuzz-by-d-a-m-/p/p175

[brianq41369]

I think yer right? It sounds germanium too? Transistor Hfe 120-165ish range, colorsound one knob is a very forgiving circuit wether it's germanium or silicon. I think it has something to do with the smallish capacitor across Q1's base & collector? it really helps shape its sound? one of my favorite fuzz face variants, btw 2n2222a metal can & 2n3904 transistors sound good for silicon version. Good luck on yer build.


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[lars]

This song reminds me a lot of "Plume" by the Smashing Pumpkins. In fact, if you start both songs at 1:12 and compare the solos, the tone/feel is very similar minus the phaser. Maybe a Mudbunny run into a Bloodstone set in "manual" mode would get you that hollow/heavy fuzz sound (if you don't want to drop $$$ on an original Colorsound Wah Fuzz).