1st vero purchase, looks off..

[adam193]

Bought some vero online, this is different looking than the stuff I've seen. The holes seem to be discrete and not connected, can I build with these? Should I get something else?


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[jkokura]

That's pad per hole board, not vero.

Jacob

[alanp]

Also known as "perfboard" -- Jon Patton's layouts largely use this, as does a lot of the Run Off Groove stuff.

[somnif]

Plenty of stuff can be made with perfboard, even vero layouts if you're willing to make all the connections. Just be careful, it can be a little more prone to pad lifting (may just be my experience with cheap materials, but worth being careful either way)

This is what the usual vero stuff looks like. Also known as Stripboard:

http://www.taydaelectronics.com/hardware/prototyping-boards/small-stripboard-94x53mm-copper.html

[midwayfair]

Also known as "perfboard" -- Jon Patton's layouts largely use this, as does a lot of the Run Off Groove stuff.

There are dozens of us! Dozens!

[sturgeo]

Storyboardist, a member here, has an incredible blogsite with more layouts than you can shake a stick at.
http://effectslayouts.blogspot.co.uk/

[adam193]

Plenty of stuff can be made with perfboard, even vero layouts if you're willing to make all the connections.

Whats the best way to make the connections? wire? solder? unicorn tears?

[mjg]

I tend to make connections with perf board by just bending the leg of a convenient resistor or capacitor as you go. Rarely you may need to add a bit of spare wire.  Keep a few spare legs that you chop off.

If you are going to try unicorn tears, make sure it's the metric ones, the imperial ones are slightly the wrong size for the hole spacing.

[DPTX]

That stuff is usable.  I have built dozens of pedals and even a few prototype amps with perfboard. 

[Netnnk]

Storyboardist, a member here, has an incredible blogsite with more layouts than you can shake a stick at.
http://effectslayouts.blogspot.co.uk/

Exactly, I've been using more and more off his site. They are great. Start with a boost, or something simple like that. I'm alternating my builds with this and stripboard.

[adam193]

Storyboardist, a member here, has an incredible blogsite with more layouts than you can shake a stick at.
http://effectslayouts.blogspot.co.uk/

Exactly, I've been using more and more off his site. They are great. Start with a boost, or something simple like that. I'm alternating my builds with this and stripboard.

So when I'm building from these layouts, do I just make all the dark black line connections with solder? Sorry if that's a silly question....

[bluescage]

As mjg pointed out, you can use the leads of resistors and capacitors to make connections between the different points, maybe sometimes you need a piece of wire. And BTW: there are no silly questions. It's silly when you don't ask!

[BrianS]

Not built anything on perf and had the same question.  It always helps if I have a picture. Runoffgroove.com has some projects that show the bottom side of a completed board.  Here's one:

http://www.runoffgroove.com/tubereamer.html

Hope this helps you out.

[mjg]

Yep, just connect the black lines. Occasionally there will also be a ground connection to a pot that isn't on the layout, so watch out for that. It might be mentioned in a note instead.

Here's a few projects that I've built using this method - there are photos showing the under side of the boards. The connections are done with the legs of resistors usually, as that's what I'll be soldering on first.

http://graybloomfield.com/guitar/2016/05/14/tri-vibe/

http://graybloomfield.com/guitar/2016/09/04/ducky-von-quackenstein/

http://graybloomfield.com/guitar/2016/07/03/the-fett/

[storyboardist]

There are dozens of us! Dozens!

Hahaha!

Storyboardist, a member here, has an incredible blogsite with more layouts than you can shake a stick at.
http://effectslayouts.blogspot.co.uk/

Exactly, I've been using more and more off his site. They are great.

Thanks guys!

So when I'm building from these layouts, do I just make all the dark black line connections with solder?

As a couple people have said already, bend the leads of resistors and caps as you go to form the traces. I start by populating flat components (resistors and any diodes) and generally that forms ~80% of the traces. Then do caps and there shouldn't be much lead bending left to do. Typically I have to use a bit of component cutoff to finish the ground trace, but it's not too bad. I've been working on a perf tutorial video that I would post here if it were done... Need to get my butt in gear. Anyway, hope that helps and good luck!