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Started by Aleph Null, May 26, 2016, 09:28:29 PM

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Aleph Null

#15
Quote from: drolo on May 27, 2016, 11:56:07 AM
Quote from: Muadzin on May 27, 2016, 09:19:06 AM
To me the 125B with top mounts is sooooooooooooooo much more pedal board efficient then a 1590B with side mounts.
I find them actually even more efficient than 1590A's with side mounted jacks
1590As are slightly less wide than 125Bs if you use pancake jacks. The problem I have with 1590As is the lack of surface area for velcro impairs pedal board adhesion.

I don't have large feet,  but I will agree that sometimes enclosure size is limited more by ergonomics than the size of the circuit. That's why this build didn't work out:


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Quote from: Aleph Null on May 27, 2016, 04:34:12 PM
Quote from: drolo on May 27, 2016, 11:56:07 AM
Quote from: Muadzin on May 27, 2016, 09:19:06 AM
To me the 125B with top mounts is sooooooooooooooo much more pedal board efficient then a 1590B with side mounts.
I find them actually even more efficient than 1590A's with side mounted jacks
1590As are slightly less wide than 125Bs if you use pancake jacks. The problem I have with 1590As is the lack of surface area for velcro impairs pedal board adhesion.

I don't have large feet,  but I will agree that sometimes enclosure size is limited more by ergonomics than the size of the circuit. That's why this build didn't work out:

choosing between a 1590A side-mounted and 125B with top-mounted jacks would be hard I guess. they can be comparable in space consumption but the 125B also has the advantage that there's more space between pots and other exterior controls.
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Quote from: Aleph Null on May 27, 2016, 04:34:12 PM
Quote from: drolo on May 27, 2016, 11:56:07 AM
Quote from: Muadzin on May 27, 2016, 09:19:06 AM
To me the 125B with top mounts is sooooooooooooooo much more pedal board efficient then a 1590B with side mounts.
I find them actually even more efficient than 1590A's with side mounted jacks
1590As are slightly less wide than 125Bs if you use pancake jacks. The problem I have with 1590As is the lack of surface area for velcro impairs pedal board adhesion.

I don't have large feet,  but I will agree that sometimes enclosure size is limited more by ergonomics than the size of the circuit. That's why this build didn't work out:




May not have worked out but it certainly looks cool.

Timko

I use 125B's and 125BB's for most of my builds these days, and opt for top mounted jacks.  Like many other, I think the board looks cleaner like that.

If I'm building into something bigger (like the 1590DD that's housing my Sagan Delay) I put the jacks wherever they can fit.

Aleph Null

Quote from: midwayfair on May 27, 2016, 12:44:12 PM
Side, because I can't get top jacks on a 1590A.

What if you turned it lengthwise?

alanp

Quote from: Muadzin on May 27, 2016, 01:12:45 PM
A valid point. Which is why I stopped wearing army boots when playing guitar and always make sure I have a pair of old converse sneakers at the ready. My feet are wide too, but being able to cram a few extra pedals on a pedal board is more then enough to make up for it. And slim shoes help a lot too. Besides, humans are adaptable. Given time they can get used to almost anything.

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Ill tell ya what i do hate, power jack on the side, uh, i have so many like this (no room sometimes!). Its a big ol' pain to wire power up on the pedal board. Def want those on top.

aion

I do just about everything in 1590Bs with top DC and side jacks. This always seemed like the most 'right' way since that's the Boss/Ibanez convention.

Top-jacked 125s are definitely more space efficient and I get why people prefer them. Just form over utility for me :)

pickdropper

I prefer side mount for 1590a and top mount for 125b and 1590bb.

I almost never use 1590b; if it can't get into a 1590a, I bump up to a 125b with top jacks.
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Aleph Null

Has anyone tried top mounting jacks on a 1590B? Seems like you could get a 1590A PCB into a 1590B and still have room at the top for jacks.

samhay

#25
Has anyone tried top mounting jacks on a 1590B?

Yes. You can get 2 1/4" jacks and DC jack in the top if you use jacks with smallish footprints and/or trim the lip on the lid/bottom.

Not my neatest builds, but probably those with the most stuffed into a 1590B:

etc

Aleph Null

Quote from: samhay on June 02, 2016, 07:41:40 PM
Has anyone tried top mounting jacks on a 1590B?

Yes. You can get 2 1/4" jacks and DC jack in the top if you use jacks with smallish footprints and/or trim the lip on the lid/bottom.

Not my neatest builds, but probably those with the most stuffed into a 1590B:

etc

That's impressive! Almost looks like more of a pain than trying to cram stuff into a 1590A, though... :-\

samhay

#27
I guess it's a little different that you're used to, but having done plenty of 1590As, I think these offer enough advantages that I will rarely do anything with a 1590A anymore.

Also, there is no way any of the 3 builds I showed would fit in a 1590A - one has a rotary switch, another has a 10 LED vu, while the 3rd has 2 relays, 2 dual op-amps, an 8-pin pic, a PT2399 and a BTDR-2 reverb brick.

Give it a try (maybe with a smaller circuit). The most you will lose is an enclosure and a few hours of your time...

Aleph Null

Quote from: samhay on June 03, 2016, 08:46:03 AM
Give it a try (maybe with a smaller circuit). The most you will lose is an enclosure and a few hours of your time...

The plan is to build a 4:1 into a 1590B with top mounted jacks. It might put the knobs closer to the foot switch, but I'm ok with that.

Aleph Null

#29
Quote from: Matmosphere on May 27, 2016, 06:07:23 PM



May not have worked out but it certainly looks cool.
Thanks! I rebuilt this pedal in a 1590BB. Tried to keep the catawampus look. Top-mount jacks of coarse. Build report is forthcoming.

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