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Started by billstein, February 22, 2015, 05:02:41 PM

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billstein

I know this is probably close to blasphemy but does anybody have any experience with a multi-effect? Boss GT-100, Line 6 HD-500, I think Zoom has the GT-5 etc.

The context is playing in a worship band. I know the individual boxes are better but I'm thinking of ease of setup. Being able to store individual settings for songs. Maybe running straight into the board. I think the better ones have an external loop I could put pedals in.

What do you guys think?

juansolo

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Cortexturizer

billstein what about the line6 m9? It's small and should cover all of your needs. Still has a place on pedalboards of various pros. Should be therefore a short term and a long term solution all together. Hm?
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Muadzin

Ease of setup is just as good an argument as analog circuitry/tube mojo. Life is always about making trade offs, there is no having your cake and eating it. And if you value ease of setup above all else, then something else has to give. I'm pretty sure that unless your audience consists solely of guitarists 99% of them won't notice the difference.

For me, I prefer an analog pedalboard over my Line 6 PodXT Live and HD500. But not so much because I think analog is better, but more because I find twiddling analog knobs to be easier then tweaking digital presets. Once its perfectly dialed in the preset sounds just as good. The bitch for me at least is in getting there.


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cooder

In one of my silliest moments of my life I bought a Boss GT 10 out of curiousity...



.... man was I glad that I could sell it quickly again without too much loss in money while they were still relativly new to the market.

I couldn't get anywhere near good sounds out of it, it really sucked compared to analog IMO. Analog pedals hands down winner.
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VanDerchuck

I bought a Boss GT-70(?) last year and played it for a couple months before selling it. It did some really great stuff. There were some fantastic delays, and you could stack a couple of them. That was interesting. But everything else that it did well was useless to me. I bought the wrong unit. I'll keep looking for something I can use, but I wouldnt ever buy one that wasn't exactly what I need. Narrow down your needs first and then search for a unit that fits. I know someone who is doing the same thing. He started with an amp and moderate pedal board. Sold some pedals and bought a Pod. Not sure which one. Runs it into the board and it sounds fine for what he does. Has since gone back and bought just what he needs for pedals to add to it. I think a Soul Food and a big muff and I think a reverb. It's not to much to carry. It all fits on a smallish board and it's very easy to setup. Good luck on your search. I hope that helps.
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jkokura

I think Bill, you need to just build an all in one effect in a big enclosure. Comp, drive, delay, reverb, and go.

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TreeSlayer

Quote from: jkokura on February 22, 2015, 07:42:32 PM
I think Bill, you need to just build an all in one effect in a big enclosure. Comp, drive, delay, reverb, and go.

Jacob
+1 you can do that, including the pedal box for a TON less! check out http://www.roadcasesusa.com/pop-up-and-tilt-pedal-board-in-1-4-ply-ata-case-unique-24-inch/
you'll also want https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXQ52iR8TQE stompsers are awesome, and inexpensive. I think I paid about 7 bucks a pack, and there's enough to do five pedals, or more if you don't use all four corners.

LT
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davent

Quote from: TreeSlayer on February 22, 2015, 08:01:31 PM

+1 you can do that, including the pedal box for a TON less! check out http://www.roadcasesusa.com/pop-up-and-tilt-pedal-board-in-1-4-ply-ata-case-unique-24-inch/
you'll also want https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXQ52iR8TQE stompsers are awesome, and inexpensive. I think I paid about 7 bucks a pack, and there's enough to do five pedals, or more if you don't use all four corners.

LT

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TreeSlayer

Quote from: davent on February 22, 2015, 08:14:07 PM
Quote from: TreeSlayer on February 22, 2015, 08:01:31 PM

+1 you can do that, including the pedal box for a TON less! check out http://www.roadcasesusa.com/pop-up-and-tilt-pedal-board-in-1-4-ply-ata-case-unique-24-inch/
you'll also want https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXQ52iR8TQE stompsers are awesome, and inexpensive. I think I paid about 7 bucks a pack, and there's enough to do five pedals, or more if you don't use all four corners.

LT

Aren't those bicycle chain links?
dave
pretty much. there's also longer box screws, spacers and wood screws. the hole diameter on a #40 chain is .156, whereas the link on the stompster is .125 . I don't think it would matter in that respect. the only problem with chain is the plates are .060 thick on a #40, whereas the other is .045 thick. also, the tensile strength of the chain would make it a lot harder to bend at a right angle for boxes that are screwed in from the side (ie, a voodoo pedal power supply). and at a cost of about 12-16 bucks a foot, and about 10-12 bucks for a chain breaker, well you get the idea.

LT
"At the line it's just you, me and the tree." the TreeSlayer

"You have the rest of your life to make excuses and be a fuckin' pussy. Today is your day OFF!"  Amiri King

brejna

Quote from: Cortexturizer on February 22, 2015, 06:24:13 PM
billstein what about the line6 m9? It's small and should cover all of your needs. Still has a place on pedalboards of various pros. Should be therefore a short term and a long term solution all together. Hm?
+1
I have it on mine big board and it covers a lot of of my needs. It is "cheap" and works great.. You want regret it.

billstein

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Quote from: juansolo on February 22, 2015, 06:20:26 PM
BURN THE HERETIC!

Hahaha... I knew I'd get flamed but I didn't know the danger was literal. I have in my mind a Frankenstein movie with all the Madbeaners coming toward my house with pitchforks and lanterns.

Here's what I was thinking might be helpful. I know the high end multis have an effects loop that you can place anywhere in the chain. So I could add those pedals I've built and love and turn them on with a preset. So the Klone, BMP etc. could still be used while using digital delays, tap tempo, volume pedal, wahs etc. from the multi.

Besides the death threats. I appreciate the help. :)