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Analog delay pedals from the seventies, count em up!

Started by Cortexturizer, December 31, 2014, 12:31:33 PM

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Govmnt_Lacky

I believe the 70's version of the MXR Delay used (3) SAD1024 chips. Sometime during ~1980ish, they switched to the R5101 chip.

If you think SAD1024s are made from fermented unicorn urine...... try getting an R5101!  ::)

EDIT: Damn... Scruffie beat me to it!  ;)

GrindCustoms

Quote from: Govmnt_Lacky on December 31, 2014, 06:59:02 PM
I believe the 70's version of the MXR Delay used (3) SAD1024 chips. Sometime during ~1980ish, they switched to the R5101 chip.

If you think SAD1024s are made from fermented unicorn urine...... try getting an R5101!  ::)

EDIT: Damn... Scruffie beat me to it!  ;)

5101, that's the huge looking one? That is also found in the DOD 680?
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Scruffie

That's the one, they seem to be pretty static sensitive and die more often than other BBDs.

Think it was also used in the flanger/doubler rack unit but that could be another chip.
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Cortexturizer

#18
Here's what I have so far (I use em in the same order, wicked wicked tones available)



the DMM would fall so well into the mix it would be ridiculous. I suppose the wait will be a long one but I will get there!
https://kuatodesign.blogspot.com - thoughts on some pedals I made
https://soundcloud.com/kuato-design-stompboxes - sounds and jams

GrindCustoms

Yup! DMM would fit in there very nicely..... now that i look at that, i need a vintage wah... Boomerangs goes out for not too bad... damn addiction!

My biggest struggle with the vintage stuff, is the dirt, it's just out of price... ...all the time... i had a Shine-Ei Companion but it really sounded like shit to me... than i have a 79-80 RAT... wich also falls in the shit category... and all the dirts that i'd be into are always 600$ and up... can't really justify that.
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GrindCustoms

Oh My!!! Just realised that i had a MicroSynth! Dirt need filled a bit..! :o
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Cortexturizer

Yeah the dirt is definitely the priciest of all them sorts!
You just got so many cool pedals man forget about the vintage stuff for a couple of days :-D
https://kuatodesign.blogspot.com - thoughts on some pedals I made
https://soundcloud.com/kuato-design-stompboxes - sounds and jams

GrindCustoms

Quote from: Cortexturizer on December 31, 2014, 08:04:56 PM
Yeah the dirt is definitely the priciest of all them sorts!
You just got so many cool pedals man forget about the vintage stuff for a couple of days :-D

You can't! There's always a deal out there lurking at you! lol

What where you thinking of, as dirt goes?
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Cortexturizer

You mean in general or for this board? For the board have it covered this colorsound has it all, volume, fuzz, wah.
In general I'd love to get an ugly fuzz of some sort that I'd infuse in the colorsound for some round octavy superfuzzish toanz
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https://soundcloud.com/kuato-design-stompboxes - sounds and jams

GrindCustoms

Quote from: Cortexturizer on December 31, 2014, 08:34:25 PM
You mean in general or for this board? For the board have it covered this colorsound has it all, volume, fuzz, wah.
In general I'd love to get an ugly fuzz of some sort that I'd infuse in the colorsound for some round octavy superfuzzish toanz

Yeah i was talking of that board, did'nt remember the colorsound was doing it all.... there's quite a couple Fuzzwah out there in an obtainable range of price.... could be a nice option when time comes that is (see, i can be rational,lol)

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gordo

Just to inject a bit of reality here.  Does anyone recall that the MXR analog delay sounded like ass?  By about 1981 you couldn't give one away.  There is a very special sound that can only come from the SAD1024 (chorus and flange) but delay isn't one of them.

Sorry, I know this goes against the mojo grain.
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How loud is too loud?  What?

gordo

And I'm half way into my new years eve beer stash.  Happy New Year!!!
Gordy Power
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Cortexturizer

Quote from: gordo on January 01, 2015, 01:08:56 AM
Just to inject a bit of reality here.  Does anyone recall that the MXR analog delay sounded like ass?  By about 1981 you couldn't give one away.  There is a very special sound that can only come from the SAD1024 (chorus and flange) but delay isn't one of them.

Sorry, I know this goes against the mojo grain.
Hey gordo, that's very interesting stuff about the MXR delay. I am by no means going for these seventies delays for the mojo factor nor necessarily for the sound, it's more for a concept this pedalboard kind of adheres to. So if you say that the MXR sounds like ass, I totally believe you! Haven't heard one, haven't played one.

Also your comment about the beer stash made me laugh haha, cheers man, glad you had a dizzy one! happy new year!

In the meantime I've found one list of these bad boys here - http://www.dinosaurrockguitar.com/new/kb/effects/timebased/echo-delay



As you can see both the DOD and the Maxon are here noted as introduced in 1979 whereas I've seen just about everywhere on the internet that the DOD is 1980 or 1981, a bunch of guys have the quality inspection stickers inside that say 1981 and so on...
Not sure about the Maxon. Can't find anything about the method of determining the age of vintage Maxon pedals, if someone out there knows, please help.

As it seems, the Ross one did exist back then. That one might be worth looking into as well. Some cool inside shots of it in here - http://effectsfreak.com/effect/ross/r-80_stereo_delay_wyellow_case_usa/
https://kuatodesign.blogspot.com - thoughts on some pedals I made
https://soundcloud.com/kuato-design-stompboxes - sounds and jams

GrindCustoms

Quote from: Cortexturizer on January 01, 2015, 08:47:13 PM
Quote from: gordo on January 01, 2015, 01:08:56 AM
Just to inject a bit of reality here.  Does anyone recall that the MXR analog delay sounded like ass?  By about 1981 you couldn't give one away.  There is a very special sound that can only come from the SAD1024 (chorus and flange) but delay isn't one of them.

Sorry, I know this goes against the mojo grain.
Hey gordo, that's very interesting stuff about the MXR delay. I am by no means going for these seventies delays for the mojo factor nor necessarily for the sound, it's more for a concept this pedalboard kind of adheres to. So if you say that the MXR sounds like ass, I totally believe you! Haven't heard one, haven't played one.

Also your comment about the beer stash made me laugh haha, cheers man, glad you had a dizzy one! happy new year!

In the meantime I've found one list of these bad boys here - http://www.dinosaurrockguitar.com/new/kb/effects/timebased/echo-delay



As you can see both the DOD and the Maxon are here noted as introduced in 1979 whereas I've seen just about everywhere on the internet that the DOD is 1980 or 1981, a bunch of guys have the quality inspection stickers inside that say 1981 and so on...
Not sure about the Maxon. Can't find anything about the method of determining the age of vintage Maxon pedals, if someone out there knows, please help.

As it seems, the Ross one did exist back then. That one might be worth looking into as well. Some cool inside shots of it in here - http://effectsfreak.com/effect/ross/r-80_stereo_delay_wyellow_case_usa/

Date codes on IC and Pots is the most reliable way of doing it... though they will sometime have stocked on the component a tad before the actual production, see year.
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Scruffie

Judging by those Ross delay photos and the Ross flanger being much the same as the MXR flanger... that is also much the same as the MXR delay.

The dates on that list are all wrong, the MXR was 77, the Memory Mans were all 78.
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