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sun king II or kingslayer II

Started by copachino, May 13, 2014, 08:41:17 PM

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copachino

which its better, i mean both are klon based circuits, but i have seen tha the sunking has almost the sam options, but which its better for modifying and also for a better tone control??
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rullywowr

For my money, the ksii is a better sounding circuit - bean did some nice tweaks to the klon which enhances the overall feel and toan.  Original klon circuit be damned 



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copachino

#2
so you think that KSii Its best?? i would buy both to try but it seems that sunking its out of stock and im no so sure about waiting it, or if it worth waiting though...


could it be possible to add the presence mod for the KSii??
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aballen

The real question is, why not both?

I've built two kingslayers, and they are great.  They seem to have crazy gain though, when I plug them in to a tube amp, not so with a solid state amp though.  Cant figure out why.

I'm trying a sunkingII next, this time with the true/buffered bypass setup.  Why not see how they compare?

Clayford

Quote from: aballen on May 14, 2014, 12:22:30 AM
[...]They seem to have crazy gain though, when I plug them in to a tube amp, not so with a solid state amp though.  Cant figure out why.
Because the fragile harmonics can't survive in a solid state crystal lattice.
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copachino

Quote from: aballen on May 14, 2014, 12:22:30 AM
The real question is, why not both?

I've built two kingslayers, and they are great.  They seem to have crazy gain though, when I plug them in to a tube amp, not so with a solid state amp though.  Cant figure out why.

I'm trying a sunkingII next, this time with the true/buffered bypass setup.  Why not see how they compare?


becuase the sunking ii its out of stock, and the kingslayer its on stock, i cant have both in different ships, cos i don live in USA, so shipping cost are huge, so if i was wondering if worth wait for the sunking to get on stock or just order the ksii
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Clayford

Quote from: copachino on May 14, 2014, 04:06:45 AM
Quote from: aballen on May 14, 2014, 12:22:30 AM
The real question is, why not both?

I've built two kingslayers, and they are great.  They seem to have crazy gain though, when I plug them in to a tube amp, not so with a solid state amp though.  Cant figure out why.

I'm trying a sunkingII next, this time with the true/buffered bypass setup.  Why not see how they compare?


becuase the sunking ii its out of stock, and the kingslayer its on stock, i cant have both in different ships, cos i don live in USA, so shipping cost are huge, so if i was wondering if worth wait for the sunking to get on stock or just order the ksii

Look, If you have, one shot, just the one opportunity
To seize the OD/Clean boost you always wanted, one pedal
Would you build the Kingslayer or just stick with the Sunking


In all seriousness I'd build the Kingslayer II if you can only do one. As previously mentioned, the updates and changes to the circuit are an improvement
 
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copachino

#7
well i think i have a winner jejjeje, i willl wait till friday if till then still no stock of the sunking i will buy the kingslayerII...


im comparing schematics, and its seems the same schematic as i suppossed, but the sungking has a modifyed charge pump, and some changes in the voltages of the Tl072, as i see, one op-amp its behind the charge pump and the other its in front(maybe im wrong), it has a mosfet inverse polarity protector, and some minor changes in values in some capacitors(maybe 1 or 2)
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