Cab Sims, headphone amps, preamps!

[claytushaywood]

I'm building a rig especially for effects- goin damage control tube pre>cab sim>delay, reverbfilter, modulation pedals>Full range power amp>either a thiele type ported cab with some near full range speakers like EV's or Altecs- gona try full range PA speakers too

anyways- I need a headphone practice option too.  The damage control preamp has a cab sim, but I might like to try the condor and such too.

I was wondering if anyone had experience with a couple things.
-Good cab sims
-Ruby Amp with headphone jack- are impedances important with other headphone amps
- also wondering how well the amp in a box pedals like the wampler blackface 65 work with cab sims direct?  itd be cool to get some alternate preamp recording options.  I love the amp in box pedals into a clean fender amp.  Wondering if using a cab sim with a headphone amp would be a good small practice rig to keep around my apartment?

I see the AMT legend pedals have a built in cab sim and are made for recording direct.  those cool (not really into modern amp sounds like soldanos and mesas)?  or should i go with a wampler black 65 with a built in cab sim and headphone amp for my practice rig?
Thanks a bunch!

[alanp]

I recorded something awhile back on my Condor cab sim, it was guitar-pedals-condor-soundblaster X-fi. Turned out pretty good.

[kothoma]

I recommend these:
http://diy.thcustom.com/shop/rog-condor-v1-1-pcb/
http://diy.thcustom.com/shop/headphone-amplifier-stereo-simulation-v1-1-pcb/

Yeah, put any FET preamp with a nice eq (amp in a box) in front.
Consider a http://diy.thcustom.com/shop/rog-azabache-pcb/ here.

[muddyfox]

So an Azabache+Condor would make a nice dual pedal for clean recording, is what you're saying?

[kothoma]

So an Azabache+Condor would make a nice dual pedal for clean recording, is what you're saying?

Right!

[muddyfox]

So an Azabache+Condor would make a nice dual pedal for clean recording, is what you're saying?

Right!

Funny how things work out sometimes. Just yesterday night I was taking my new soldering iron for a spin and soldered this one up


It's a board I got from Ronan over at diysb probably a year ago and I was also starting to gather together parts to build a vero Condor (I think it's up on Harald Sabro's site?). Furthermore, I already told Thomas that I'll be spending a bit of my post-Xmas paycheck with him so I may as well grab a Condor board as well. So I may as well make a dual pedal out of it. 

[alanp]

http://www.madbeanpedals.com/forum/index.php?topic=11632.0

Condor soundclip is in reply #8

[claytushaywood]

i was wanting to put a headphone jack on the ruby amp (386 based mini amp).  I read something about needing to match your headphones impedances when building a headphone amp for guitar.

anyone know anything about this?  I just got some sennheiser hd 280's... oh and it actually says 64ohms on the headphones!

[claytushaywood]

and yeh ive been looking at the azabache... And it seems to have good reviews but there are some absolutely terrible demoes of runoffgroove pedals... I mean i've heard some demoes of that thing that sound like absolute shit.  I'm using a $75 zoom q3 (non hd version) and i make demoes that sound like studio compared to some of the ROG demoes ive heard

[kothoma]

Personally I find it very tiresome to listen to mono signals with headphones.
Making it stereo (even with a subtle fixed phase shifter) is a great relief to my ears.
That's why I recommended the second link above.

[claytushaywood]

Personally I find it very tiresome to listen to mono signals with headphones.
Making it stereo (even with a subtle fixed phase shifter) is a great relief to my ears.
That's why I recommended the second link above.

i agree there, something weird goes on with mono headphones signals that actually makes my ears tired.  i might go full stereo like alanp did here

http://www.madbeanpedals.com/forum/index.php?topic=11632.0

seems like itd be an awesome way to get a nice stereo start to some of my stereo delays and verbs.  i'm excited about this setup.  I just got a damage control womanizer preamp on ebay.  it does have a speaker cab sim, but its of a 1x12- which i dig, but itll be cool to have some other options.  i'm basically goin for a setup similar to strymon has for their demoes on their website.  Which I think are some of the best solo guitar tones I've ever heard.  not what I really wanna go for in a band context, but for solo ambient guitar stuff i like to do itll be killer