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Why is so incredibly hard to choose a looper?

Started by Cortexturizer, August 07, 2013, 01:21:30 PM

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Cortexturizer

I don't. I still cannot trigger samples whenever I want em, but I do find saving a phrase on the jamman solo much nicer than on the bigger versions. I still have to wait until the end of the phrase to switch to the next one, which was my main problem with any looper commercially available that I could afford.

Still, this arrangement of two loopers, one of which is a fantastic delay, really offers a ton of options, and the phrases on the dl-4 are available to manipulation via an expression pedal (which I DIYed successfully), and I did get the digitech f3sx footswitch with the pedal so I can do all sort of stuff now.

Pretty satisfied. And not dependent of the computer. The con is having to drag TWO power supplies (the one for the dl-4 is more heavy than the pedal) but then again the jamman almost has no weight.

When I get bored of this I will definitely sell both and buy a Boomerang, or go computer.
https://kuatodesign.blogspot.com - thoughts on some pedals I made
https://soundcloud.com/kuato-design-stompboxes - sounds and jams

kothoma

OK, I understand. Nice to see that this works for you for the moment.

Still hope that there is an easy DIY solution. I'd really like to have
- an analog basic sound (no booting required...) and
- digital processing (multitrack recording/looping, delays, convolution for cabinet simulation and reverb)
in a box, providing line out to sound systems and DAWs.

kothoma


rullywowr

I have the Boss RC-3 with the side car footswitch (2 button).  I really like the fact I can plug it into a computer and download backing tracks.  Its really easy to do things like chop out the solo section of a song and drop that in the pedal...like for guiltless 1 hour sessions of just soloing over Comfortably Numb.

What I really don't like is what it does to my tone.  Since it essentially is a A/D and D/A converter I find it just sucks the life out of my rig.  I like using it in practice at home but would have to really think about using it live for that reason.

On a related note, I also have the MIDI control Behringer FCB1010, which I painted in truckliner black and did the phantom power mod to it.  This mod is basically using the two outer MIDI pins to run the AC adapter through the cable so you don't need to plug it in on stage.  Back at the rack, I inject the power to the MIDI cable there and then I can use it on stage without being next to AC.  I really don't use this piece anymore (since I don't do much rack gear) and am looking at selling it at a low price if anyone is interested.



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PhiloB

Hey Rullywowr, you still have the Behringer FCB1010?


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rullywowr


Quote from: PhiloB on March 20, 2015, 03:40:56 AM
Hey Rullywowr, you still have the Behringer FCB1010?


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Yes.  Still have it.  Make me an offer?



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drolo

Keep an eye open for the new  EHX 22500 Stereo looper, basically a stripped down 45000. Looks very promising.
They have not put up official info on their site yet but some shops already have them up:
http://www.bax-shop.fr/electro-harmonix-22500-dual-stereo-looper-pedale-de-looper.html

I have had the 2880 for years and love it. It can retrigger the loop if you double click on the start stop button, not sure it has all you are looking for though...


drolo

Oh just realized how old this thread was ....  :D

gtr2

Quote from: drolo on March 20, 2015, 09:59:49 AM
Oh just realized how old this thread was ....  :D

Thats ok...some of us are still waiting for the perfect looper :)

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micromegas

Quote from: drolo on March 20, 2015, 09:26:09 AM
Keep an eye open for the new  EHX 22500 Stereo looper, basically a stripped down 45000. Looks very promising.
They have not put up official info on their site yet but some shops already have them up:
http://www.bax-shop.fr/electro-harmonix-22500-dual-stereo-looper-pedale-de-looper.html

I have had the 2880 for years and love it. It can retrigger the loop if you double click on the start stop button, not sure it has all you are looking for though...
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PhiloB

#40
Can someone recommend a good website for researching guitar live looping?  I am interested in using a computer and midi foot controller.  I've looked at the all in one solutions like Boomerang and the like.  I'd like to compare the two.  I'm not coming up with some comprehensive info on computer/iPad based solutions.  A lot of the info I'm finding is outdated.


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gtr2

ableton live and your choice of midi controller
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flanagan0718

I've had about 3 DL-4s they are great..until they brake. Then they suck...until you fix / mod them. One of my favorite loopers what honestly, the Akai Headrush E2. Great looper, easy to use and Awesome delay sounds. Plus the loop time was almost double that of the DL4. I also liked the delay more that the DL4 as well, wasn't so digital sounding. They are also sub $100 too. That's always a bonus.

I'd like to just say one thing about drummers and metronomes. I am a drummer before a guitarist any day of the week. GOOD drummers don't NEED a metronome. They might use one to keep them in check from time to time. But just remember we don't MAKE you play out of tempo you do that on your own... ;)

PhiloB

Anyone with Ableton Live- can you verify that Live 'Intro' version will support the features you would need for live looping. 
That may be a question for the ableton forum?


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PhiloB

Seems some folks are using Reaper + Mobius Looper (free)


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