Zombii after a buffered pedal

[Jamiroking]

The zombii seems to really suffer if its placed in the chain after a buffer but at the same time, a lot of pitch shifter effects (mine is the PS-5) track a million times better when they're first in line. I've read a few people online talking about a mod they could do to their fuzz factory to make it work like normal even when behind a buffered pedal. Does anyone know what this mod might be? If possible, I think I'd like to build it in with a toggle switch so I could choose based on the situation I'm using the pedal.

[gtr2]

Running a compressor in front of a pitch shifter effect can help them track better if they are not "1st in line"  I'm unfamiliar with the fuzz factory mod, but it probably modifies the input impedance.

Josh

[irmcdermott]

Zak Vex will tell you that it needs to be the first pedal in your chain. I know this because someone I know emailed him about it and that was his response.

Not sure on the mod.

[jtn191]

Would it just be a matter of raising the value of the input resistor to make up for a lower impedance?

[bigmufffuzzwizz]

Interesting. I'd like to see this mod also for the zombii board I have. Maybe Bean has something about it in his big basket of beans!

[greyscales]

I have had the same problem with putting a Fuzz Factory behind a Boss tuner and a Whammy pedal. It certainly works behind them, but sound nothing like it does before them.

My Whammy doesn't seem to suffer from being behind the FF, but I suppose that doesn't help solve your problem.

[stecykmi]

i can't remember where i saw it, but i saw some diy folks playing around with small audio transformers to play around with input impedances for certain effects.

[neutronarmy]

http://www.muzique.com/lab/pickups.htm

Wiring an audio transformer as an inductor. I've never done it myself, but the idea gets thrown around often.

[LaceSensor]

would something like the push / relax knob off the mastotron work?
That changes the input inpedance unless I am mistaken...

[Jamiroking]

The push/relax knob sounds interesting. Even if it doesn't work with the zombii, I'm building a sabertooth right now and would love to learn more so I could include it.

[LaceSensor]

See attachment for push/relax knob wiring.

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[Jamiroking]

would something like the push / relax knob off the mastotron work?
That changes the input inpedance unless I am mistaken...

The more I thought about it, the less hope I have...

By adding input impedance with the relax/push knob, we may be able to simulate a hi-imp signal but will it clean up with the volume knob on your guitar? I feel like it still won't respond as it was meant to first in line because the impedance is not coming from the guitar.

Am I wrong about this?

[LaceSensor]

no harm to try but its up to you.