**FIXED** Collosalus 2022: Signal and Voltage Issues

[jeffwhitfield]

Alright, fixed the problem! Thanks to Scruffie for pointing me in the right direction.

Turned out to be something pretty damn simple. The problem was the 3K resistor that runs off of Q5. The bag of resistors was mislabeled. What was installed was a 620R resistor. Seems that Tayda screwed up and put the wrong resistors in the bag. Switched out the resistor for the correct value and all is good.

So, lesson learned: Don't trust the label on the bag! Check that the values match before use! I will say that this kind of crap happens way, way more often with Tayda than anyone else. Rarely ever have issues like this with other vendors. But, considering where Tayda ships from and how cheap their components are it honestly doesn't surprise me.

Pedal is a bit on the noisy side so I'll need to tweak the internal pots a bit more and see if I can knock the noise down a bit. Otherwise, appears to be working just fine. 

[Bio77]

Congrats!  I like how Tayda supplies their resistors because I can check the whole bag quickly.  I find most of their stuff is in spec, but occasionally I have to pull a few out of a bag and pitch them.  Happens more for low values like 10R.  I've never had a mislabeled bag before, that's concerning. 

I did a look over your picture to see if I noticed any other alternate values.  Maybe double check the values on R38 and R32.

If you still have noise after setting the trims, suggest the audio probe.  I just built this and it's crazy quiet for a flanger.   

[Thewintersoldier]

I have never had tayda put the wrong resistors in the bags, never once in like 7 years. In fact the only time I ever got the wrong thing from them was because I clicked on the wrong thing. I also don't think where they ship from has anything to do with not checking values before a part is inserted. Doesn't seem fair to blame a company for an error of the builder.

[gordo]

+1 with Bio77, this thing is crazy quiet with a decent power supply.

[jeffwhitfield]

Congrats!  I like how Tayda supplies their resistors because I can check the whole bag quickly.  I find most of their stuff is in spec, but occasionally I have to pull a few out of a bag and pitch them.  Happens more for low values like 10R.  I've never had a mislabeled bag before, that's concerning. 

I did a look over your picture to see if I noticed any other alternate values.  Maybe double check the values on R38 and R32.

If you still have noise after setting the trims, suggest the audio probe.  I just built this and it's crazy quiet for a flanger.

I did a full audit of all the resistors but can't hurt to double check those particular ones.

[jeffwhitfield]

+1 with Bio77, this thing is crazy quiet with a decent power supply.

I might try a different power supply. The one I got is a pretty cheap one so...yeah...

[jeffwhitfield]

I have never had tayda put the wrong resistors in the bags, never once in like 7 years. In fact the only time I ever got the wrong thing from them was because I clicked on the wrong thing. I also don't think where they ship from has anything to do with not checking values before a part is inserted. Doesn't seem fair to blame a company for an error of the builder.

I've had a few errors here and there from Tayda, usually a missing part...but that's been rare. Nothing like this though. Just in the past two orders I had parts that were wrong. In one order, what should have been MLCC capacitors ended up being a set of flat washers for toggle switches. Label was correct but the bag contained washers instead of caps. And then there's this one...bag says 3k resistors but what's in it is actually 620 ohm resistors.

Only conclusion that I can make is that they changed something about their business. With all the updates to how shipping is handled, something seems a bit askew. Used to be that U.S. orders were shipped out of a warehouse here domestically with some orders being delayed due to parts being shipped from overseas. But many of those orders were processed and shipped really fast. Not the case anymore. Seems virtually everything is now processed and shipped from Thailand...which isn't a problem really if orders are processed accurately.

Don't know what to say really other than that's been my experience lately. Doesn't exactly leave me with a fuzzy feeling. It's one thing if I'm ordering parts for a personal build. I can deal with that. It's another if the parts order is for a batch of pedals I'm building to be sold on Reverb or the like. Not exactly a great scenario. Mistakes happen...I get it. But this just seems to be a bit of a trend.

[Thewintersoldier]

I have never had tayda put the wrong resistors in the bags, never once in like 7 years. In fact the only time I ever got the wrong thing from them was because I clicked on the wrong thing. I also don't think where they ship from has anything to do with not checking values before a part is inserted. Doesn't seem fair to blame a company for an error of the builder.

I've had a few errors here and there from Tayda, usually a missing part...but that's been rare. Nothing like this though. Just in the past two orders I had parts that were wrong. In one order, what should have been MLCC capacitors ended up being a set of flat washers for toggle switches. Label was correct but the bag contained washers instead of caps. And then there's this one...bag says 3k resistors but what's in it is actually 620 ohm resistors.

Only conclusion that I can make is that they changed something about their business. With all the updates to how shipping is handled, something seems a bit askew. Used to be that U.S. orders were shipped out of a warehouse here domestically with some orders being delayed due to parts being shipped from overseas. But many of those orders were processed and shipped really fast. Not the case anymore. Seems virtually everything is now processed and shipped from Thailand...which isn't a problem really if orders are processed accurately.

Don't know what to say really other than that's been my experience lately. Doesn't exactly leave me with a fuzzy feeling. It's one thing if I'm ordering parts for a personal build. I can deal with that. It's another if the parts order is for a batch of pedals I'm building to be sold on Reverb or the like. Not exactly a great scenario. Mistakes happen...I get it. But this just seems to be a bit of a trend.

You are the first person I've heard of having these issues. The real question is why aren't you checking values before you populate and did you learn your lesson🤪

[jeffwhitfield]

You are the first person I've heard of having these issues. The real question is why aren't you checking values before you populate and did you learn your lesson🤪

Oh, man, I seem to attract stuff like this. If it's not errors with orders it's defects with stuff I buy. I've had a few defective pedals that I had to exchange this past year. Before that, when I was building my two bikes, I had a bunch of parts with defects.

And, yeah, definitely learned my lesson. I've been testing capacitors and such prior to installing...but not so much the resistors. So, yeah, will be checking those to make sure that A) the actual value matches what's on the bag and B) that the value falls within an acceptable range. Almost never have problems with resistor measurements though.

[blackhatboojum]

I have never had tayda put the wrong resistors in the bags, never once in like 7 years. In fact the only time I ever got the wrong thing from them was because I clicked on the wrong thing. I also don't think where they ship from has anything to do with not checking values before a part is inserted. Doesn't seem fair to blame a company for an error of the builder.

I've had a few errors here and there from Tayda, usually a missing part...but that's been rare. Nothing like this though. Just in the past two orders I had parts that were wrong. In one order, what should have been MLCC capacitors ended up being a set of flat washers for toggle switches. Label was correct but the bag contained washers instead of caps. And then there's this one...bag says 3k resistors but what's in it is actually 620 ohm resistors.

Only conclusion that I can make is that they changed something about their business. With all the updates to how shipping is handled, something seems a bit askew. Used to be that U.S. orders were shipped out of a warehouse here domestically with some orders being delayed due to parts being shipped from overseas. But many of those orders were processed and shipped really fast. Not the case anymore. Seems virtually everything is now processed and shipped from Thailand...which isn't a problem really if orders are processed accurately.

Don't know what to say really other than that's been my experience lately. Doesn't exactly leave me with a fuzzy feeling. It's one thing if I'm ordering parts for a personal build. I can deal with that. It's another if the parts order is for a batch of pedals I'm building to be sold on Reverb or the like. Not exactly a great scenario. Mistakes happen...I get it. But this just seems to be a bit of a trend.

Have you tried emailing Tayda about your issues?  From my own personal experience, Hugo is a pretty stand up dude and tries to make things right when something like what you're describing happens.  On a different forum, someone had an issue with an enclosure and Hugo hooked them up with a free replacement.  Just food for thought.

[jeffwhitfield]

Have you tried emailing Tayda about your issues?  From my own personal experience, Hugo is a pretty stand up dude and tries to make things right when something like what you're describing happens.  On a different forum, someone had an issue with an enclosure and Hugo hooked them up with a free replacement.  Just food for thought.

I probably will here soon. He definitely needs to be made aware of these few issues. If it's happening to more customers then it's a trend he'll likely want to tamp down on.

[gordo]

They are good peeps to deal with.  I've had a few minor errors but they've been pretty rare.  I used to test every part before I put it in on one of those little multi tester thingies but have gotten lazy lately.

The supply I used is an old as dirt Radio Shack (!!!) bench power supply that is amazingly stable.  I've had it for 40+ years.  I've also used the 18v out of a Dunlop Brick.

[jeffwhitfield]

They are good peeps to deal with.  I've had a few minor errors but they've been pretty rare.  I used to test every part before I put it in on one of those little multi tester thingies but have gotten lazy lately.

Yep, definitely good people. Did report it and they gave me some credit on my account.

The supply I used is an old as dirt Radio Shack (!!!) bench power supply that is amazingly stable.  I've had it for 40+ years.  I've also used the 18v out of a Dunlop Brick.

I got a different power supply and it made a world of difference. Quality power supply is super, super important for sure. Cheap ones suck and just cause noise.