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Lifted pads

Started by jonnygreentrees, September 21, 2016, 11:32:18 AM

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jonnygreentrees

Whenever I make a pedal on single-sided copper etch I always seem to get a couple of lifted pads. Is there a better way to repair these than just use jumpers/solder bridges to the next component along?

Govmnt_Lacky

Not really a better way to repair... more like good advice to avoid them all together.

I have found that the most common reason for a pad lifting is excessive heat. Try to avoid keeping the soldering iron on the solder point for longer than needed. Maybe use a smaller/lower wattage iron. Decrease your heat a bit.

Sometimes the quality of FR4 is to blame as well. I have found the Tayda single-sided is notorious for pad lifting.

Food for thought...  ;)

warriorpoet

To piggyback on this, make sure your tip is as small as is practical, too. You don't want to use a pencil tip on PCBs at all, but especially not on single-side.
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jonnygreentrees

Oh really!?

I was given a nice ERSA soldering station and I'm using this tip which is the smallest I could find that would fit it

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B000UX9VMK/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Is this not ideal?

warriorpoet

Not ideal; it delivers too much heat to your pads. Use something like this: https://www.amazon.co.uk/LF-ERSADUR-solder-tip-832/dp/B0024TECY0/ref=sr_1_10?s=industrial&ie=UTF8&qid=1474640114&sr=1-10&keywords=ersa+solder+tip

For reference, I run my Hakko at 440f (~227C) with 63/37 solder and a needle point tip. Congrats on the free iron!
Mzo.FX, Owner

jonnygreentrees

Oh wow! I solder at 400 degrees Celsius is that too hot? Will look into getting a smaller tip

Govmnt_Lacky

Quote from: jonnygreentrees on September 23, 2016, 02:25:04 PM
Oh wow! I solder at 400 degrees Celsius is that too hot? Will look into getting a smaller tip

I typically run at between 650 and 700F so you appear to be a bit high. I would go down to 350-375C and see how that goes.

Good Luck  ;)

warriorpoet

Keep in mind: different irons will measure heat differently. My old iron wouldn't melt solder below 575f, this new one lifts pads at that temp. You don't want to be so cool it takes several seconds to heat the pad, but you don't want it so hot pads lift consistently. It's a balancing act!
Mzo.FX, Owner

jtaormina

Getting crazy with solderwick can cause lifted pads.

m-Kresol

I run my iron at 330 °C and did all of my soldering at 300 °C  until a few month back without problems. Now I'm in and out faster, but it takes some training to get to this point.

I use a chisel shaped tip for all my soldering.
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