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Dirtbag Deluxe - no delay signal

Started by Sonicdead, June 13, 2013, 04:29:15 PM

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Sonicdead

Hi guys!
I'm trying to make Dirtbag Deluxe on MN3005. My first attempt finished poorly as I've turned on 18 volt instead of 15. Recently, I've replaced all IC's, including MN3005, and I started to bias...
I can hear only clean signal and the volume of it changes with the Level
When I try to listen the signal from pin 3 of IC4, I hear only squeak and its intensity is changing with the lever Mod (the same situation with pin5 of IC4). I can't hear any guitar sound.
I used CD4047BE instead of CD4047BCN and this is the only difference in scheme.
What should I pay attention for? Have I got not working MN3005?
This build is real pain in ass,  I've spent more than a year doing it.

Scruffie

Post your voltages.

Only way to test if you have fake 3005s is to test them in a working pedal or to buy a verified fake MN3005 (actually MN3008 so half the buckets/delay) pair from smallbear and stick them in and see if it works.
Works at Lectric-FX

Sonicdead

Scruffle, thank you for response


Now i check the voltage:
in from power supply: 15.18v

IC 1 (TL072):

pin 1 : 4.62v
pin 2 : 4.62v
pin 3 : 4.60v
pin 4 : 000.3 mv
pin 5 : 4.57v
pin 6 : 4.62v
pin 7 : 4.68v
pin 8 : 15.18v

IC 2 (NE 570N):

pin 1 : unstable
pin 2 : unstable
pin 3 : unstable (maybe, here is the problem?)
pin 4 : 000.6 mv
pin 5 : 2.9v
pin 6 : 2.9v
pin 7 : 1.46v
pin 8 : 3.39v
pin 9 : 3.3v
pin 10 : 9.28v
pin 11 : 7.52v
pin 12 : 2.74v
pin 13 : 15.18v
pin 14 : 1.6v
pin 15 : 1.6v
pin 16 : 093.5 mv

IC 3 (TL072)

pin 1 : 4.65v
pin 2 : 4.62v
pin 3 : 4.6v
pin 4 : 0
pin 5 : 4.63v
pin 6 : 4.65v
pin 7 : 4.67v
pin 8 : 15.1 v

IC 4 ( MN 3005):

pin 1 : 15.13v
pin 2 : 7.57v
pin 3 : 8.07v
pin 4 : 8.02v
pin 5 : 000.5 mv
pin 6 : 7.55v
pin 7 : 3. 78v
pin 8 : 000.3 mv

IC 5 (MN 3005):

pin 1 : 15.13v
pin 2 : 7.57v
pin 3 : 7.23v
pin 4 : 7.25v
pin 5 : 000.8 mv
pin 6 : 7.56v
pin 7 : 9.9v
pin 8 : 000.5 mv

IC 6 (TL072):

pin 1 : 9.91v
pin 2 : 9.84v
pin 3 : 9.82v
pin 4 : 000.5 mv
pin 5 : 0.94v
pin 6 : 2.64v
pin 7 : 0.6v
pin 8 : 15.18 v

IC 8 (CD 4047 BE)

pin 1 : 7.36v
pin 2 : 7.80v
pin 3 : 7.79v
pin 4 : 15.17v
pin 5 : 15.18v
pin 6 : 15.18v
pin 7 : 0
pin 8 : 000.3mv
pin 9 : 000.3mv
pin 10 : 7.56v
pin 11 : 7.57v
pin 12 : 000.3mv
pin 13 : 7.57v
pin 14 : 15.18v

Scruffie

You have a lot of voltage issues there...

On every TL072 you should see 15V on Pin 8, 0V on Ground and approx 7.5V on the rest of the pins except for IC7 which should modulate.

The NE570 voltages should not be modulating as you say.

Check your V.Ref resistors (R59 & 60) and the cap off them (C48) is orientated correctly, not shorted & properly soldered.
Works at Lectric-FX

Sonicdead

I just check resistors and capacitor - everything is that it should be - resistors are 100k, cap - 10uf 50V, soldered well.
Every electrolytes is 25V and more
But nothing has changed - i still hear only squeak from pin 3, and voltage is still the same. :'(
Maybe, it's a power supply problem? I take it from my Univibe project - it worked there.
Now i washed my board and i will take a break for a day, until it's dry.

Here is my guts:

Sonicdead