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#31
Open Discussion / Re: The secret M117 flanger
Last post by gordo - December 18, 2025, 11:52:41 PMWow, this is pretty cool. I've always thought the SAD versions were easily the best but over the years I have my doubts as it was completely new back then and I've probably heard 50 flangers since then and have probably built 10. Plus my old-ass ears aren't likely as prime as my 17yr old version was.
So what's the gist of this circuit? Two delays running in parallel hoping for differences in components (piggy backed)?
So what's the gist of this circuit? Two delays running in parallel hoping for differences in components (piggy backed)?
#32
Open Discussion / Re: The secret M117 flanger
Last post by jimilee - December 18, 2025, 09:51:41 PMVery cool, thank you.
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#33
Open Discussion / The secret M117 flanger
Last post by lars - December 18, 2025, 09:47:47 PMThere are so many versions of the MXR M117, it's not surprising there is one version that has pretty much flown under the radar for the last couple decades. Yes, there are people who know the version I'm talking about, but for the most part, it's still kind of a sleeper. Clear back in 1996, MXR made it's first reissue of the M117. There doesn't seem to be much information about that first reissue on the Internet. It appears they may have only been made for about 2 years. The majority of online demos for the M117 are of the originals or the "newer" reissues. A gut shot is nearly impossible to find of the 1996 version.
The '96 version was US-made and used good-ol through-hole components and a very interesting choice for the BBD: not one, but two MN3004's! In the world of flangers, that makes it much more rare than the SAD1024-based M117's. I don't think there is another flanger in existence that uses two MN3004's. This version also has two independent clock circuits as well, so it's easily the most complex version of the M117 MXR has ever made. A schematic would be awesome to check out, but is impossible to find.
So how do you spot one of these "post-vintage, yet vintage" versions? The easiest way is if there is a picture of the bottom plate. MXR didn't provide any battery power option in '96, so no battery doors.
If there isn't a picture of the bottom though, you can spot them by the paint. The first reissues were always a matte rough-finish gray color with no metal flake. So if it has metal flake charcoal paint, it's not the one.
The other odd identifying mark is the LED. On the '96 versions, the LED is one of the strangest colors of red I've ever seen for an LED. It's like watermelon Kool-Aid red when it's off. You can easily see the color difference when compared with the 2004-present versions.
So here are the pics:
The insides of these rarely see the light of day...
Dual MN3004's are under them pots...
Why did I bother posting any of this? I've still seen this rare version listed as "2004-present", and it generally get's lumped in with the newer ones that just aren't quite the same. So keep an eye out! You can still pick these up for pretty cheap considering how nice they are and how rare the BBDs are. You will never regret getting a hold of one of these early reissues. Highly recommended.
Happy hunting!
The '96 version was US-made and used good-ol through-hole components and a very interesting choice for the BBD: not one, but two MN3004's! In the world of flangers, that makes it much more rare than the SAD1024-based M117's. I don't think there is another flanger in existence that uses two MN3004's. This version also has two independent clock circuits as well, so it's easily the most complex version of the M117 MXR has ever made. A schematic would be awesome to check out, but is impossible to find.
So how do you spot one of these "post-vintage, yet vintage" versions? The easiest way is if there is a picture of the bottom plate. MXR didn't provide any battery power option in '96, so no battery doors.
If there isn't a picture of the bottom though, you can spot them by the paint. The first reissues were always a matte rough-finish gray color with no metal flake. So if it has metal flake charcoal paint, it's not the one.
The other odd identifying mark is the LED. On the '96 versions, the LED is one of the strangest colors of red I've ever seen for an LED. It's like watermelon Kool-Aid red when it's off. You can easily see the color difference when compared with the 2004-present versions.
So here are the pics:
The insides of these rarely see the light of day...
Dual MN3004's are under them pots...
Why did I bother posting any of this? I've still seen this rare version listed as "2004-present", and it generally get's lumped in with the newer ones that just aren't quite the same. So keep an eye out! You can still pick these up for pretty cheap considering how nice they are and how rare the BBDs are. You will never regret getting a hold of one of these early reissues. Highly recommended.
Happy hunting!
#34
Open Discussion / Re: Big Muff 2
Last post by lars - December 18, 2025, 12:16:41 PMQuote from: LaceSensor on December 14, 2025, 11:15:35 AMWhat are people thinking about the latest Big Muff out there ?Personally I think this falls under the YABM category. There is hardly a sound this thing can make that I can't get out of that classic "overdrive into big muff" combination.
It's great that we already have the option to build one ourselves though.
#35
Tech Help - Projects Page / Man O War short delay noise
Last post by joesatch - December 17, 2025, 09:24:07 PMwhen i have the delay at min up to about 9 o'clock i get massive scratchy noise. Delay above that is fine. I have calibrated and adjusted the clock to min (shortest, cleanest repeats). running the pedal at 12vdc. Any ideas
#36
Build Reports / Re: MicroSynth Fuzz
Last post by LaceSensor - December 17, 2025, 01:44:12 PMYeah but I wasnt really aware of that being a thing for "on-on" types. Colour me educated.
I was aware of it for on-off-on types....
For the avoidance of doubt, its this type
I was aware of it for on-off-on types....
For the avoidance of doubt, its this type
#37
Build Reports / Re: MicroSynth Fuzz
Last post by Govmnt_Lacky - December 17, 2025, 01:39:30 PMQuote from: LaceSensor on December 17, 2025, 07:28:16 AMIt's just a standard DPDT bypass switch
I don't know what you mean by type 2
As far as I was aware the only "types" when it comes to DPDT are in relation to three position lever types??
DPDT toggles come in different "types" with regards to pole switching. Dead End FX uses some of the less common "type" DPDT toggles in some of their builds.
#38
Build Reports / Re: MicroSynth Fuzz
Last post by LaceSensor - December 17, 2025, 07:28:16 AMIt's just a standard DPDT bypass switch
I don't know what you mean by type 2
As far as I was aware the only "types" when it comes to DPDT are in relation to three position lever types??
I don't know what you mean by type 2
As far as I was aware the only "types" when it comes to DPDT are in relation to three position lever types??
#39
Build Reports / Re: MicroSynth Fuzz
Last post by jwin615 - December 17, 2025, 04:08:53 AMHey LaceSensor, is SW2 on/on type 2?
#40
Open Discussion / Re: Big Muff 2
Last post by jessenator - December 15, 2025, 06:18:53 PMThis is seriously cool! Well done, both of you. I feel like garbage, so I sat laid down in bed and started adapting the mayonnaise fuzz mods/controls to the deuce. Won't breadboard them until I can sit properly, but there's a good chance at least one of the switches is placed wrong, as well as values needing tweaked, but it's the first bit of creative juice I've gotten in a while.
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