I built the nautilus and it's on my pedal board right now.
It's sound good, but I'm looking at trying to make it sound closer to the original.
Things on my to do list... Please correct me if I'm way off base with any of this, I'm a total noob.
1M rev audio for gain. It will spread out the bunched up gain at the end of the travel
Since I can't find a 150k audio pot for peak, I have a 200k audio I'm going to try. The 250k with the tapering resistor gets you 150k but it simulates a reverse audio taper. Which is exactly the opposite of what you want, so the peak is all bunched up even more so at the beginning of the pot travel.
I'm going to get a capacitor tester and make sure C6 and C8 match as close as possible and also that
C5 and C7 are matched.
I used metal film resistors so it shouldn't be an issue but I'm going to match R8 and R9 as close as possible.
Currently I used the VTL5C3's but I'm going to try to make one like the original Mutron (1 led, 2 ldrs). I bought a ton of different color LED's and 3 different types of LDR's (10 each for a total of 30). I plan on making 3 vactrols to test, one for each type of LDR. I'm going to measure light and dark resistances and pick the two LDR's of each type that match and track as close as possible. For each LDR type I'm going to chose the LED color that is closest to the peak wavelength for the LDR.
Setting Rx seems to be the key to getting the correct sweep and sound. I think, in a perfect world, I'd have an oscilloscope and actually measure the sweep and set it to the frequency range that is the factory default for the LP mode (which is what I'm most interested in)..... I've googled the crap out of how to set RX to get the "correct" sweep. The info out there is pretty slim. I have seen reference to 400hz to 2k for the sweep in LP mode, but that's hearsay. There's a guy who charges to calibrate the original Mutron III's and supposedly they sound great after it. I would love to know what they are actually doing and what values they are looking for. My plan is to use a trimmer and remove the external sweep control because I want it set and not change once I dial it in.
Things I may or may not also try are changing the C1 and C11 to their original values and types, but this is probably just cork sniffery? Also I've thought about removing the extra gain stage added at the end that isn't part of the original circuit, but that's just a passing thought.
This project has been great for me. Up until now I've just really been painting by numbers. But I've really started to dig into how this actually works. I'm at the bottom of a really steep hill but I'm looking forward to the climb.
It's sound good, but I'm looking at trying to make it sound closer to the original.
Things on my to do list... Please correct me if I'm way off base with any of this, I'm a total noob.
1M rev audio for gain. It will spread out the bunched up gain at the end of the travel
Since I can't find a 150k audio pot for peak, I have a 200k audio I'm going to try. The 250k with the tapering resistor gets you 150k but it simulates a reverse audio taper. Which is exactly the opposite of what you want, so the peak is all bunched up even more so at the beginning of the pot travel.
I'm going to get a capacitor tester and make sure C6 and C8 match as close as possible and also that
C5 and C7 are matched.
I used metal film resistors so it shouldn't be an issue but I'm going to match R8 and R9 as close as possible.
Currently I used the VTL5C3's but I'm going to try to make one like the original Mutron (1 led, 2 ldrs). I bought a ton of different color LED's and 3 different types of LDR's (10 each for a total of 30). I plan on making 3 vactrols to test, one for each type of LDR. I'm going to measure light and dark resistances and pick the two LDR's of each type that match and track as close as possible. For each LDR type I'm going to chose the LED color that is closest to the peak wavelength for the LDR.
Setting Rx seems to be the key to getting the correct sweep and sound. I think, in a perfect world, I'd have an oscilloscope and actually measure the sweep and set it to the frequency range that is the factory default for the LP mode (which is what I'm most interested in)..... I've googled the crap out of how to set RX to get the "correct" sweep. The info out there is pretty slim. I have seen reference to 400hz to 2k for the sweep in LP mode, but that's hearsay. There's a guy who charges to calibrate the original Mutron III's and supposedly they sound great after it. I would love to know what they are actually doing and what values they are looking for. My plan is to use a trimmer and remove the external sweep control because I want it set and not change once I dial it in.
Things I may or may not also try are changing the C1 and C11 to their original values and types, but this is probably just cork sniffery? Also I've thought about removing the extra gain stage added at the end that isn't part of the original circuit, but that's just a passing thought.
This project has been great for me. Up until now I've just really been painting by numbers. But I've really started to dig into how this actually works. I'm at the bottom of a really steep hill but I'm looking forward to the climb.