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#1
General Questions / Re: Fuzz Face 69 clone over saturated
November 12, 2019, 10:28:42 PM
So, there was nothing wrong with my soldering. At least not totally.
I found the solution in a YouTube video of an assembly of the same pedal, where the guy pointed (no talking) at the trim pot marked C1K as the contour knob. I used the C1K for fuzz...

I would have wanted this information in the kit's description:
B1K: 1 kOhm rev log
C1K: 1 kOhm lin

Maybe I should have understood which one was going where, but I didn't, and there were nothing explaining that to me.
I based my choice on the description of the potentiometer in the web shop, which says "rev log C":
https://www.musikding.de/Alpha-Potentiometer-16mm-1k-rev-log_1

So now I measure 4.7 V on Q2c, which I'm quite happy with for now. :)

Thank you for your replies!
#2
General Questions / Re: Fuzz Face 69 clone over saturated
November 10, 2019, 09:13:30 PM
Aaaaand he's back!  :P

This is just weird. After having left the pedal for a while (off) I fired away with the measuring again, and now I got around 8V on Q2c. And the voltage is dropping, ever so slowly. About -0.1V in 15 minutes.

Is this just more evidence of bad solder joints?
#3
General Questions / Re: Fuzz Face 69 clone over saturated
November 10, 2019, 04:55:10 PM
Hello again...

So I started scratching the PCB where the solder joints were close, and now I get around 5.4V on Q2 collector. And now the voltage changes when I adjust the trim pot. Progress, but it still sounds crappy.

I noticed that the 10K RV1 (trim pot) on max actually only measures around 7K ohm. So, would a 20K on RV1 perhaps get me to the magic 4.5V?
#4
General Questions / Re: Fuzz Face 69 clone over saturated
November 10, 2019, 10:41:32 AM
Did another measure now, and I don't know where that prior reading of 7.69 volts went. Now I'm getting these values:

10K trim pot only differs 0.06V at max. Sounds very low to me.
Q2-collector: 9.21V
Q2-base: 0.33V
Q2-emitter: 0.34V

Have not yet done any reflowing of solder joints. I'm guessing I would start by just reflowing Q2, or should I reflow everything on the PCB?  :o
#5
General Questions / Re: Fuzz Face 69 clone over saturated
November 09, 2019, 03:05:57 PM
OK, wow... After measuring it sounds even worse. Before it was usable to some extent. Now it's just crap.  :'(

Here's a video clip of what it sounds like now:
https://youtu.be/V7V5lKlDkqk
#6
General Questions / Re: Fuzz Face 69 clone over saturated
November 09, 2019, 12:29:38 PM
OK, so now I have checked the resistors placements and color codes, and they are OK.
I'm reading 7.69 V on the Q2 collector, which would explain (?) the over saturated sound I guess.
Unfortunately the voltage doesn't change when I change the value of the 10K trim pot or the bias knob.
I have measured a difference in resistance in the trim pot itself, so it appears to be working.
The soldering looks OK I think (for a beginner). But if something would be wrong with it, there would be no sound at all right?
#7
General Questions / Re: Fuzz Face 69 clone over saturated
November 08, 2019, 10:01:11 AM
I do have a multimeter but I did not bias the transistors, simply because that wasn't mentioned in the kit's description. You live and learn.
But I'll try that as well this weekend then. :)

Thanks for the suggestions!
#8
General Questions / Fuzz Face 69 clone over saturated
November 08, 2019, 09:22:27 AM
Hello pedal heads!

So I recently built my first pedal, a Fuzz Face 69 clone from musikding.de.
Schematics: https://www.musikding.de/docs/musikding/face69/69erschalt.pdf

The kit's Ge transistors are AC125 and AC125U, supposedly with 80-89 and 110-119 hFE values.

I was happy to see it worked right away, but not very impressed by the sound. Unless I have the fuzz knob set very low it is overly saturated. And when set it low the sound is quite boring.

I have tried switching the transistors, since I didn't take note of which one had which hFE value, and also tweaked the trim pot, but to no apparent avail.

Could the transistors be bad, or have I perhaps done something wrong?

Maybe easier to understand with some audio, so I'll try recording a clip this weekend.

(I'm using a Gibson LP Studio 2004)