I'm quite proud of this pedal. It's a Madbean Sunking PCB along with an Echobase PCB in a 1590DD box. It's my grab+gig pedal when I don't want to haul my pedalboard.
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4124/5070997652_1ed8698c93_b.jpg)
The Sunking is a SWEET overdrive. Better with the gain <10 o'clock.
Now that is a freaking awesome box!! I'm very impressed. Does the sunking go before the delay or after? I would have put it on the right and the delay on the left.
Jacob
That looks awesome! How'd you do the artwork? Decals? Silkscreen?
That is very cool. I have built several Sunkings and have an Echobase in progress.
The chain goes Sunking --> Echobase, but for some reason, I still see things left to right. I couldn't believe how many times when I first really started using pedals I always cabled them backwards (input on the left, output on the right)! I should read less.
This is a waterslide decal on a Rustoleum Gloss White painted box. I wanted to pay homage to the original klon, obviously, but with a little more art-appeal, and then I wanted to contrast that with the organized-chaos of a delay, hence the graphic on the right.
I know Madbean has been working on a Memory-Man-esque project, but the Echobase with just a touch of the modulation turned on does a GREAT job, at least for me.
Quote from: loves_guitar on December 05, 2010, 07:42:56 AM
The chain goes Sunking --> Echobase, but for some reason, I still see things left to right. I couldn't believe how many times when I first really started using pedals I always cabled them backwards (input on the left, output on the right)! I should read less.
Every now and then, I try to figure out why pedals go right to left instead of left to right. I have the feeling that a long time ago, someone was wiring up the guts of a very early pedal, and they thought "Let's go from left to right", not realizing that the input and output would change sides when they flipped the pedal over. And somehow that stuck.
Anyway, beautiful build!
Very very nice!
I always assumed things went right to left because most players are right handed and the cable comes out of their guitar on the right side as they play it.
Nice build! I have a similar setup with the sunking actually after my delay selector switch in the same box. I dont use any gain on mine but I think I may swap them around, it was an experiment.
Quote from: B_of_H on December 05, 2010, 05:15:04 PM
I always assumed things went right to left because most players are right handed and the cable comes out of their guitar on the right side as they play it.
Yeah, that would be my guess, too. Weren't some early pedals wired with the input on the left, output on the right? I thought I saw/read that somewhere.
Thanks for all the comments. :)
Duuuuuuuuuuuuuuude ;D Awesome!!
old fuzz faces and the sovtek green russian muffs are wired up with input on the left output on the right.
Yeah, things like the Maestro Boomerang were (Are) wired 'backwards' too.
One way I think it can make sense is if you have a lefty guitarist. Why does everything have to be 'right to left' for them? It's backwards compared to the guitar, and likely to their feet also. But you need a standard right, so you go with the rest of the crowd who wires things that make sense in the way a right handed guitar works. So if signal comes out of the guitar at the 'right hand' of the guitarist, it makes sense to have the signal of the pedal go right to left. But with a lefty guitarist with DIY in the mind, it works to go the wrong way!
However, it's all moot, because we don't know if the signal goes that with our friend here's pedal. It might, but there's no indication of that right now. It just looks that way because of the way the pedal is laid out. The sunking on the left could be first in the guts - we have no idea right now.
Jacob
Quote from: jkokura on December 06, 2010, 12:09:19 AM
However, it's all moot, because we don't know if the signal goes that with our friend here's pedal. It might, but there's no indication of that right now. It just looks that way because of the way the pedal is laid out. The sunking on the left could be first in the guts - we have no idea right now.
Is that some sort of shot at me to make me post a 'guts' shot?! :)
Here you go. A gut shot with the CUTEST model in the background wanting 'in the shot'!:
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4149/5070389709_6a5ecf4cab_b.jpg)
Adorable. Plus your child looks really cute too!
But seriously, not shot meant, but I'm really glad you posted the guts! What's really interesting is that BOTH of these circuits are buffered, and not true bypass. I wonder how the two buffers do affect each other! Also, I can't tell by that wiring which comes first or last in the circuit path. Does it got Sunking > Echobase or does it go Echobase > Sunking?
Jacob
Awesome
Totally rad!
Very nice build. :o
left-right, right-left, 1st-2nd - whatEVER, I love that!
Just getting in to this "sickness" and have been scouring the internets for pics/ideas and the simple/chaotic graphics mixture on that is up there w/some of the my favorite artwork I've seen on an enclosure
Cool stuff!
Thanks everyone. I am quite proud of this pedal.
The signal goes input -> Sunking -> Echobase -> output.
Yeah, two buffered pedals in one. I don't notice anything (though admittedly, I don't quite get the whole 'buffered' vs. 'true-bypass' thing - like I understand how it works physically, but I really can't hear a difference, aside from my tone-sucking Hendrix wah that I true-bypassed - as a matter of fact, the footswitch for the Echobase actually came from my Hendrix wah!).
I was just curious, because 95%+ of the DIY projects utilize true bypass switching. Even when you use the Millennium Bypass with a DPDT switch, it's still true bypass. You just happened to use two of the very few DIY projects with buffers built in to create this! So I was curious how that would be. I'd imagine it's fine, and you can't tell the difference, but it's just curious to me!
Thanks for filling in the details!
Jacob
that is killer..better than a lot of commercial pedal graphics
L.G.
I laughed. Cute pic. I couldn't imagin what the little nose was 'till I looked closer.
Peace. J.J.B.
Quote from: NoizeD on December 07, 2010, 10:06:40 AM
that is killer..better than a lot of commercial pedal graphics
Seriously, those graphics look amazing! You should be very pleased with your work! :D
Looks very nice - the simplicity of black and white makes it look ultra classy.
Quote from: jprizz on December 09, 2010, 05:14:19 AM
Looks very nice - the simplicity of black and white makes it look ultra classy.
Thanks. I agree. I'm really into this basic black on white look phase. Timeless I suppose.
Where did you get the echobase pcb?
Quote from: milkypostman on December 09, 2010, 03:09:11 PM
Where did you get the echobase pcb?
A guy on one of the forums (can't remember which, now) made a couple for himself. Apparently he always makes an extra in case he screws up one. His worked, so he had an extra one to sell.
Though I believe user 'Taylor' is or was selling fabbed PCBs over at DIYStompboxes. Not sure of the status of them right now. If you needed some documentation to get Madbean to make you a board, let me know (though I'm sure Madbean already has documentation on the Echobase).
You can get one from Taylor at www.musicpcb.com (there's a link to him on th eLinks page of the MBP website).
I just finished building his EchoBase PCB over the weekend and it is freaking great. By far one of the most satisfying builds I've done in a while.
Of course it is! Look at all those nicely aligned resistors i can't imagine the fun soldering. Very big build though. Holy hell. And the mods. It'd be hard not to do them all. GET OUT YOUR CHECKBOOK!
I've built both the trem and the Echobase Taylor's done. Both of them are awesome, but the echobase is easier. I'm on my second echobase build and have a third completed PCB from another guy on the way. Awesome PT2399 delay.
Jacob
Ok now you've got my atention. Brian everything I've built so far from you has been awesome and I've seen Jabocs work on Youtube. So if you cats are saying the Echobase is a good build I've definately got to build one!!!
There's just another dozen of MB's thing I want to build. ;D
Peace. J.J.B.