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Title: DirtBag Deluxe build
Post by: mysticwhiskey on December 14, 2011, 09:45:32 AM
I just finished boxing this up tonight.  Thanks to Brian for the great boards and the detailed instructions, it's a challenging build but well worth it.  Sounds absolutely luscious!  After calibrating the trimpots, I found myself playing guitar for about 40 minutes at the test bench (ie the kitchen table).  Lovely pedal.

It's a tight fit in a 1590BB size case, but it's doable.  I used low-profile electrolytic caps on both the main board and the roadrage power board too.  Not much room to spare!  I mounted the roadrage on the lid.  It took me ages to work out how to mounting everything though, and plenty of designing on the computer and measuring carefully to make sure everything fit.  The label is a laser-printed water slide decal using a design I put together.  Not exactly original though!

The other board you can see in the pictures is an IO and power board I made, and also the footswitch mounts onto it as well.  I know it's not the most conventional jack layout but I wanted a 'landscape' type orientation for the pedal.

More pics at http://s247.photobucket.com/albums/gg133/mysticwhiskey/Madbean%20Dirtbag%20Deluxe

(http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg133/mysticwhiskey/Madbean%20Dirtbag%20Deluxe/TopView.jpg)
(http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg133/mysticwhiskey/Madbean%20Dirtbag%20Deluxe/SideAngledView.jpg)
(http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg133/mysticwhiskey/Madbean%20Dirtbag%20Deluxe/FrontAngledView.jpg)
(http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg133/mysticwhiskey/Madbean%20Dirtbag%20Deluxe/RearAngledView.jpg)
(http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg133/mysticwhiskey/Madbean%20Dirtbag%20Deluxe/GutShotTopRoadRageMounting.jpg)
Title: Re: DirtBag Deluxe build
Post by: marmaliser on December 14, 2011, 09:52:21 AM
That is awesome .. I am in awe.   Where is the bow at your feet smilie
Title: Re: DirtBag Deluxe build
Post by: MadeByMike on December 14, 2011, 09:55:05 AM
Amazing build. Great stuff!

I just started populating my board last night - spent an hour after doing some other builds and only got down the first column of resistors. It's a complex puppy!
Title: Re: DirtBag Deluxe build
Post by: raulduke on December 14, 2011, 09:57:22 AM
That is a super neat build mate.

Congratulations!
Title: Re: DirtBag Deluxe build
Post by: plesur on December 14, 2011, 10:07:21 AM
Really nice looking pedal.

What did you do about the 240pf cap in your build?

It took me 10 hours straight to populate my board, just waiting for one pot now to finish it off. I hate the delays from the Christmas post!
Title: Re: DirtBag Deluxe build
Post by: mysticwhiskey on December 14, 2011, 10:22:10 AM
Thanks for the kind words!  I used a ceramic cap labelled as 220pF that measured 245pF.  I've got another board I've built at the same time as this one, for that I used another 220pF cap that measured 235pF.  I measured a few caps to find ones that were close to 240pF, they seem to vary quite a bit.  The delay pots measured 101K in this build and 98K in the other one.  I also used a 10K linear pot for the feedback in both builds instead of the 10K log specified in the build doc, and it seems to function just fine over the sweep of the pot.  The knobs are Davies 1400 clones from Small Bear, and there's just enough room for them to fit without the knob's pointers interfering with each other.

I don't know how many hours I spent putting these two together, maybe like 15 hours in total.  I went kind of slow over the course of several days.  Most of the time was spent working out how to fit everything in, and designing the decal. It's the first time I've used a fabbed board from madbean and I have to say I'm really impressed with the quality and the ease of soldering.  And it sure beats etching my own board and drilling hundreds of holes!

I've gone kind of delay-crazy over the last few months, and I'm considering building another DirtBag to use the couple of V3205 chips I have just to compare how it sounds to the MN3005 versions.  Based on the sound of the previous V3205 delay I built (the AD3208 from guitar gadgets) I reckon it'll sound pretty close to the 3005 version like Brian says.
Title: Re: DirtBag Deluxe build
Post by: LaceSensor on December 14, 2011, 01:51:14 PM
Soooo nice congrats.
Title: Re: DirtBag Deluxe build
Post by: jimmybjj on December 14, 2011, 01:56:29 PM
Incredible!
Title: Re: DirtBag Deluxe build
Post by: pryde on December 14, 2011, 02:30:24 PM
Wow. Top notch build man.

I can't wait to get mine going but I got about 3 builds in front of it
Title: Re: DirtBag Deluxe build
Post by: jkokura on December 14, 2011, 04:18:02 PM
I really like the layout on that one. That came out really nicely I think.

Jacob
Title: Re: DirtBag Deluxe build
Post by: cjkbug on December 14, 2011, 04:57:33 PM
can you publish the art for the switch/jack daughter board. that's a sweet solution

EDIT. nevermind i found it
Title: Re: DirtBag Deluxe build
Post by: eldanko on December 14, 2011, 05:46:57 PM
Absolutely sick.  Well done!  And you have encouraged me in my quest to fit everything in a 1590BB as well.... :)
Title: Re: DirtBag Deluxe build
Post by: dwstanford on December 14, 2011, 07:26:16 PM
Absolutely gorgeous.  I'm diggin' the horizontal layout.  I may have to try that with mine.  Where might i find one of those boards you used for the jacks and switch? 
Title: Re: DirtBag Deluxe build
Post by: Haberdasher on December 14, 2011, 09:26:39 PM
Fantastic build, I love it!  I'm now interested in the horizontal layout as well.
Title: Re: DirtBag Deluxe build
Post by: mysticwhiskey on December 14, 2011, 11:00:08 PM
Here's the PCB transfer image for the IO board. I used PCB-mount Cliff-style jacks. You could use regular PCB mount jacks that have the thread bit sticking out, but then you won't really be able to remove the board from the enclosure without desoldering the jacks.

(http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg133/mysticwhiskey/Madbean%20Dirtbag%20Deluxe/th_3xIOboardsandforPnPtransferandComponentLayout600DPI_.png) (http://s247.photobucket.com/albums/gg133/mysticwhiskey/Madbean%20Dirtbag%20Deluxe/?action=view&current=3xIOboardsandforPnPtransferandComponentLayout600DPI_.png)

The image is quite large, it's 600DPI so print at 100% scaling and it should come out correct. I recommend using IrfanView on Windows to print this out, since the Windows default image viewer doesn't seem to print at the correct size (at least for me, that is).
Title: Re: DirtBag Deluxe build
Post by: Comfort Player on December 14, 2011, 11:03:19 PM
Anyone willing to sell me one of these ?  I am not into etching ( yet )  ;D

I know it's only a matter of time, but ....
Title: Re: DirtBag Deluxe build
Post by: gabu1306 on December 14, 2011, 11:37:23 PM
Man I really am dying to build this one. That footswitch and jacks board is genius. Awesome build!
Title: Re: DirtBag Deluxe build
Post by: nzCdog on December 15, 2011, 01:06:27 AM
Cool build, very tidy and excellent IO board to boot!
Looks fantastic, be great fun to play I bet too, nice work
Title: Re: DirtBag Deluxe build
Post by: slimtriggers on December 15, 2011, 02:53:31 AM
Quote from: marmaliser on December 14, 2011, 09:52:21 AM
That is awesome .. I am in awe.   Where is the bow at your feet smilie

(http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs15/f/2007/075/c/8/worship_by_pro_amateur.gif)

That is really an inspiring build!  Wow!
Title: Re: DirtBag Deluxe build
Post by: k.rock! on December 15, 2011, 04:51:55 AM
Absolutely beautiful man! This is fantastic...high five!


-Kaleb
Title: Re: DirtBag Deluxe build
Post by: Roctopus on December 15, 2011, 09:44:13 PM
Amazing build! Looks great :)
Title: Re: DirtBag Deluxe build
Post by: Mich P on January 07, 2012, 09:44:18 PM
Sorry to ask but is your switch is correctly labelling ?
Mich P.
Title: Re: DirtBag Deluxe build
Post by: mysticwhiskey on January 08, 2012, 12:00:02 AM
You're right, I guess strictly speaking the label should be 'Vibrato / Chorus' to match the switch positions.
Title: Re: DirtBag Deluxe build
Post by: enjoyadrian on January 09, 2012, 04:21:21 AM
Really can't get over the look of this. A+ work man.

Also my work bench is the kitchen table. My wife always gets mad about that.
Title: Re: DirtBag Deluxe build
Post by: LaceSensor on January 09, 2012, 10:06:08 AM
hey mystic

can you share you artwork for the graphic please?
I might try one in that orientation next.

Thanks

Title: Re: DirtBag Deluxe build
Post by: mysticwhiskey on January 10, 2012, 09:45:38 AM
Here's several different versions of the decal (click for full-size versions).  I've made a couple with a 'Dirtbag' text instead of the 'Memory Man'.  The images are 600DPI so if you print at 100% scaling it should all come out correct (highly recommended to do a test print first!)  On Windows I recommend using Irfanview to print out to the correct size (there's an option to use the image resolution in Irfanview's Print dialog), or on Mac OS X just change the scaling to 100% on the print dialog.

(http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg133/mysticwhiskey/Madbean%20Dirtbag%20Deluxe/th_Decal-Monochrome-DirtbagLogo.png) (http://s247.photobucket.com/albums/gg133/mysticwhiskey/Madbean%20Dirtbag%20Deluxe/?action=view&current=Decal-Monochrome-DirtbagLogo.png)

(http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg133/mysticwhiskey/Madbean%20Dirtbag%20Deluxe/th_Decal-Monochrome-MMLogo.png) (http://s247.photobucket.com/albums/gg133/mysticwhiskey/Madbean%20Dirtbag%20Deluxe/?action=view&current=Decal-Monochrome-MMLogo.png)

(http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg133/mysticwhiskey/Madbean%20Dirtbag%20Deluxe/th_Decal-RedDeluxe-DirtbagLogo.png) (http://s247.photobucket.com/albums/gg133/mysticwhiskey/Madbean%20Dirtbag%20Deluxe/?action=view&current=Decal-RedDeluxe-DirtbagLogo.png)

(http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg133/mysticwhiskey/Madbean%20Dirtbag%20Deluxe/th_Decal-RedDeluxe-MMLogo.png) (http://s247.photobucket.com/albums/gg133/mysticwhiskey/Madbean%20Dirtbag%20Deluxe/?action=view&current=Decal-RedDeluxe-MMLogo.png)
Title: Re: DirtBag Deluxe build
Post by: LaceSensor on January 11, 2012, 09:37:24 AM
Brilliant, thanks.
Title: Re: DirtBag Deluxe build
Post by: Mich P on January 11, 2012, 01:27:17 PM
Superjob mysticwhiskey !!
Thanks.
Mich P.
Title: Re: DirtBag Deluxe build
Post by: Comfort Player on January 11, 2012, 06:44:50 PM
Outstanding, Thank you.  ;D
Title: Re: DirtBag Deluxe build
Post by: bigmufffuzzwizz on January 20, 2012, 06:29:09 PM
You did a really good job, if I saw that in person I would be all over it! Thanks for posting your artwork as well, I've probably use that for mine.  :)
Title: Re: DirtBag Deluxe build
Post by: nzCdog on January 20, 2012, 08:34:01 PM
Great work! Thanks for sharing those graphics... I want to use one once I get my hands on the pcb ;D
Title: Re: DirtBag Deluxe build
Post by: marcfrom on January 26, 2012, 01:07:46 PM
Hi guys, very nice building. :)

I just order my Dirtbag PCB, i'm looking for MN3005 ICs, but i know there's a lot of fake. So, have you a secure source to buy it ?

Another question, i don't see where to connect the CH/VB SPDT switch on the board, if someone can tell me...

Thank you

Marc
Title: Re: DirtBag Deluxe build
Post by: marmaliser on January 26, 2012, 01:13:41 PM
Quote from: marcfrom on January 26, 2012, 01:07:46 PM
Another question, i don't see where to connect the CH/VB SPDT switch on the board, if someone can tell me...
It's board mounted and sits between the Delay and Depth Pots
Title: Re: DirtBag Deluxe build
Post by: marcfrom on January 26, 2012, 04:58:11 PM
Ok, i get it, thank you ;)

And what about the MN3005 ? i really want to mount the Dirtbag with it.
I've read on Ebay there's a big chance to buy a fake, some people had the same problem with UT source.

Does anyone can tell me where to find a genuine MN3005 IC ?

Thanks

Marc
Title: Re: DirtBag Deluxe build
Post by: Hangingmonkey on May 14, 2012, 09:21:27 PM
Nice build, thanks for sharing the art files.  I plan to make on sometime this year when the PCB is back in stock
Title: Re: DirtBag Deluxe build
Post by: pickdropper on May 14, 2012, 09:24:32 PM
Hey Mysticwhiskey,

I used that artwork for my laser etched DMM and it worked great.  Thanks again for sharing.

- Dave