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Title: Pork Barrel 2015 rev. 1 issue : not chorusing
Post by: WAXOU on January 29, 2021, 10:55:37 AM
Hello everybody,

Because of the pandemic my employer puts me on hold until better days so I've got plenty of times and decided to try to get back at building pedals.
I've been succesful with a Tractor Beam and a Decimator clone (really effective noise gate btw).
So, following that path, I was confident in trying a Pork Barrel 2015 rev.1 that was sitting in my drawer next to a couple of MN3007 and MN3101 that I've traded with a fellow madbeanforum user some years ago.

Everything went well while soldering, but once I fired it up : fail !

I can hear a tiny change of sound when I engage the effect, like the Depth is kind of working, but oscillations are very weak and almost inaudible, it's almost a dry signal.
The LFO Led is blinking so I'm guessing the LFO is working though.
I've double check my soldering and resolder some joint, but still the same.

So I've made some measures and notice that Pin 6 on clock is way off, so is collector on Q5 (and maybe emitter on Q3)

If you guys have some time, could you please point me in the right direction to debug this one ?

Thx

IC1 : 4558
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1 | 4,72
2 | 4,72
3 | 4,72
4 | 0
5 | 4,72
6 | 4,72
7 | 4,72
8 | 9,1

IC2 : MN3007
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1 | 9
2 | 4,64
3 | 3,9
4 | 0,6
5 | 0
6 | 4,6
7 | 3,73
8 | 3,73

IC3 : MN3101
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1 | 8,98
2 | 4,6
3 | 0
4 | 4,68
5 | varies
6 | 8,05*
7 | varies
8 | 0,6

IC4 : TL062
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1 | varies
2 | 4,56
3 | varies
4 | 0
5 | 4,55
6 | 4,57
7 | varies
8 | 9,1

Q1 : 2N5088
-----------
E | 3,55
B | 4,05
C | 9,1

Q2 : 2N5088
-----------
E | 3,96
B | 4,51
C | 9,1

Q3 : 2N5088
-----------
E | 3,72*
B | 4,2
C | 9,1

Q4 : 2N5088
-----------
E | varies
B | varies
C | 9

Q5 : 2N5088
-----------
E | 0
B | varies
C | 7,7*

here are some pics of the PCB

(https://i.ibb.co/DrVTYBv/2021-01-29-11-54-18.jpg) (https://ibb.co/0sDvK06)
(https://i.ibb.co/Dp46pxy/2021-01-29-11-54-24.jpg) (https://ibb.co/vY1rY7G)

Title: Re: Pork Barrel 2015 rev. 1 issue : not chorusing
Post by: danfrank on January 29, 2021, 09:12:36 PM
 Have you tried adjusting the bias trimmer! 3.9v looks a little low. Also, the 3007 marginally works at 9 volts, Regulated 12 volts supply is much better.
Also, take a look at forum posts because I know there has been some corrections for some of the boards for this project
Title: Re: Pork Barrel 2015 rev. 1 issue : not chorusing
Post by: WAXOU on January 29, 2021, 10:18:11 PM
Thank you for your suggestions danfrank.
I've tried to bias the pedal, but as I didn't hear any effects I left the trimmer in his middle position.
I've tried with a regulated 12v power supply and still no chorus, just a weak effect, even when biasing.
At first I thought that it was one of the 2015 pcb that had to have some corrections as you mention, but mine it's the rev. 1 that has been already corrected.
Title: Re: Pork Barrel 2015 rev. 1 issue : not chorusing
Post by: WAXOU on February 02, 2021, 11:49:32 AM
Hello again,

So, here is what I've tried so far :



Well, still not working...

What do you think can cause Pin 6 of clock and collector pin of Q5 to have fixed voltages ?

Thank again.





I've swap
Title: Pork Barrel 2015 rev. 1 issue : not chorusing
Post by: jimilee on February 02, 2021, 03:33:21 PM
Have you tried reflowing your solder joints? After some 9 years, I still have to do it on occasion. We all do.

Edit: stupid auto correct.

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Title: Re: Pork Barrel 2015 rev. 1 issue : not chorusing
Post by: WAXOU on February 02, 2021, 03:44:31 PM
Thx for the advice, but the one that is working is the oldest, this is the youngest that ain't working ! (My grand father could have said this  ;D)