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Title: Another lazy finishing technique
Post by: culturejam on February 26, 2018, 01:18:50 AM
Got the idea while chasing my kid through Joann Fabric the other day. I saw these cool disk things that looked like they would make for a neat rattle can stencil. Apparently this things are called a "plastic canvas". This is pretty much the same one I used: http://amzn.to/2EUawSR

(https://i.imgur.com/zrz08g2.jpg)

So yeah, just lay this thing on an enclosure and hit it with spray paint. Probably a good idea to finish off with some kind of clear coat.

Here's my first attempt. Literally took 20 seconds. The box is a Hammond pre-powder-coated. Paint was some kind of random white that I had laying around. The lines aren't clean at all, but it's hard to get that when the enclosure itself isn't flat. I'm sure there's a way to make it sit flatter, but this was a first (lazy) try.

(https://i.imgur.com/Nk1HkN6.jpg)
Title: Re: Another lazy finishing technique
Post by: blearyeyes on February 26, 2018, 01:25:56 AM
That's what I'm talking bout! Lazy=me
Title: Re: Another lazy finishing technique
Post by: p_wats on February 26, 2018, 02:35:58 AM
One man's lazy is another man's ingenious. Nice job.
Title: Re: Another lazy finishing technique
Post by: pickdropper on February 26, 2018, 02:51:21 AM
I was looking very carefully to see if it was perfectly centered when the pattern caused me to have a seizure and pass out.

In other words, I approve of this artwork.
Title: Re: Another lazy finishing technique
Post by: matmosphere on February 26, 2018, 03:49:15 AM
That looks great! Way to think on your feet. My local Joanne is not somewhere that inspires (or allows) thought.

Quote from: p_wats on February 26, 2018, 02:35:58 AM
One man's lazy is another man's ingenious. Nice job.

The two are not mutually exclusive. In fact I'd argue they go hand in hand.

Use brain to find solution that requires the least amount of effort possible, is just another way to say innovative thinking.
Title: Re: Another lazy finishing technique
Post by: selfdestroyer on February 26, 2018, 04:01:40 AM
BRILLIANT!
Title: Re: Another lazy finishing technique
Post by: alanp on February 26, 2018, 04:30:31 AM
Quote from: ScroogeMcDuck
Work smarter, not harder!
Title: Re: Another lazy finishing technique
Post by: Adam_DIY on February 26, 2018, 04:34:42 AM
I like that it looks excellent.
Title: Re: Another lazy finishing technique
Post by: TheDude on February 26, 2018, 04:35:12 PM
Love it, particularly the faded look in the top left corner

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Title: Re: Another lazy finishing technique
Post by: reddesert on February 26, 2018, 09:27:29 PM
That's cool!

I think this is a framework for embroidery or needlepoint so that would be the section to find it in.

Now you're making me think about a fabric covered pedal.
Title: Re: Another lazy finishing technique
Post by: madbean on February 26, 2018, 10:55:54 PM
That is cool! I wonder - have you tried using your 3d printer to make stencils for the same kind of thing? Or are they prints too rough for that?
Title: Re: Another lazy finishing technique
Post by: somnif on February 26, 2018, 11:02:57 PM
Quote from: madbean on February 26, 2018, 10:55:54 PM
That is cool! I wonder - have you tried using your 3d printer to make stencils for the same kind of thing? Or are they prints too rough for that?

I mean, you could, but the real deal are like 50 cents a piece, the printer media would cost more than a trip to a fabric store.
Title: Re: Another lazy finishing technique
Post by: Aristatertotle on February 27, 2018, 12:11:55 AM
Cool! I've seen people do art prints and the sort using things like doilies as resists when spraying paint, or painting the doilies and using them as stamps.
Title: Re: Another lazy finishing technique
Post by: madbean on February 27, 2018, 12:51:58 AM
Quote from: somnif on February 26, 2018, 11:02:57 PM
Quote from: madbean on February 26, 2018, 10:55:54 PM
That is cool! I wonder - have you tried using your 3d printer to make stencils for the same kind of thing? Or are they prints too rough for that?

I mean, you could, but the real deal are like 50 cents a piece, the printer media would cost more than a trip to a fabric store.

I don't mean copies of the one he used - stencils based on artwork. Like a full sheet covering the enclosure with cutouts for the lettering, etc. Might not be practical...the pic just made me think of it.
Title: Re: Another lazy finishing technique
Post by: culturejam on February 27, 2018, 12:53:01 AM
Quote from: madbean on February 26, 2018, 10:55:54 PM
That is cool! I wonder - have you tried using your 3d printer to make stencils for the same kind of thing? Or are they prints too rough for that?

That would work. And I actually did make a stencil about a year ago, but I made it too thick (and with a stupid font) and it didn't work very well. Never got around to doing another, but thanks for the reminder.
Title: Re: Another lazy finishing technique
Post by: culturejam on February 27, 2018, 12:53:53 AM
Quote from: somnif on February 26, 2018, 11:02:57 PM
I mean, you could, but the real deal are like 50 cents a piece, the printer media would cost more than a trip to a fabric store.

Not really. I could print that exact stencil I used for about 20 cents.
Title: Re: Another lazy finishing technique
Post by: somnif on February 27, 2018, 01:05:43 AM
Oh, every time I see printer plastic stock for sale at Frys it always seems ridiculously expensive. Maybe its like Adafruit and they just stock a pricey brand.
Title: Re: Another lazy finishing technique
Post by: culturejam on February 27, 2018, 01:07:15 AM
Quote from: somnif on February 27, 2018, 01:05:43 AM
Oh, every time I see printer plastic stock for sale at Frys it always seems ridiculously expensive. Maybe its like Adafruit and they just stock a pricey brand.

A kilo of PLA (http://amzn.to/2CrBrYu) is about $20. I could make a LOT of stencils with a kilo. Like, a whole lot. :)
Title: Re: Another lazy finishing technique
Post by: somnif on February 27, 2018, 01:19:07 AM
Quote from: culturejam on February 27, 2018, 01:07:15 AM
Quote from: somnif on February 27, 2018, 01:05:43 AM
Oh, every time I see printer plastic stock for sale at Frys it always seems ridiculously expensive. Maybe its like Adafruit and they just stock a pricey brand.

A kilo of PLA (http://amzn.to/2CrBrYu) is about $20. I could make a LOT of stencils with a kilo. Like, a whole lot. :)

Ah I see. Frys has it 25$ for 200g of the stuff, which always seemed high to me.
Title: Re: Another lazy finishing technique
Post by: culturejam on February 27, 2018, 01:20:14 AM
Quote from: somnif on February 27, 2018, 01:19:07 AM
Ah I see. Frys has it 25$ for 200g of the stuff, which always seemed high to me.

That is highway robbery. Unless it's some kind of speciality filament, never pay that much.
Title: Re: Another lazy finishing technique
Post by: thesmokingman on February 27, 2018, 01:41:56 AM
been wanting to try lace as a stencil since seeing a rat rod friend of mine use it in a racing stripe for visual interest
Title: Re: Another lazy finishing technique
Post by: jposega on February 27, 2018, 01:57:11 AM
Quote from: madbean on February 27, 2018, 12:51:58 AM
Quote from: somnif on February 26, 2018, 11:02:57 PM
Quote from: madbean on February 26, 2018, 10:55:54 PM
That is cool! I wonder - have you tried using your 3d printer to make stencils for the same kind of thing? Or are they prints too rough for that?

I mean, you could, but the real deal are like 50 cents a piece, the printer media would cost more than a trip to a fabric store.

I don't mean copies of the one he used - stencils based on artwork. Like a full sheet covering the enclosure with cutouts for the lettering, etc. Might not be practical...the pic just made me think of it.

Makes me think a 3D printed faceplate would be pretty cool.
Title: Re: Another lazy finishing technique
Post by: movinginslomo on February 27, 2018, 01:57:23 AM
Quote from: madbean on February 27, 2018, 12:51:58 AM
Quote from: somnif on February 26, 2018, 11:02:57 PM
Quote from: madbean on February 26, 2018, 10:55:54 PM
That is cool! I wonder - have you tried using your 3d printer to make stencils for the same kind of thing? Or are they prints too rough for that?

I mean, you could, but the real deal are like 50 cents a piece, the printer media would cost more than a trip to a fabric store.

I don't mean copies of the one he used - stencils based on artwork. Like a full sheet covering the enclosure with cutouts for the lettering, etc. Might not be practical...the pic just made me think of it.

Isn't that what laser cut vinyl is for?
Title: Re: Another lazy finishing technique
Post by: culturejam on February 27, 2018, 02:30:10 AM
Quote from: movinginslomo on February 27, 2018, 01:57:23 AM
Isn't that what laser cut vinyl is for?

Vinyl tends to melt with most kinds of rattle can paint. See pic below. I think you need acrylic to not melt it. Haven't tried it, but I think I read somewhere that they are compatible.

(https://i.imgur.com/f7naAnf.jpg)
Title: Re: Another lazy finishing technique
Post by: reddesert on February 27, 2018, 06:35:57 AM
Quote from: culturejam on February 27, 2018, 01:07:15 AM
A kilo of PLA (http://amzn.to/2CrBrYu) is about $20. I could make a LOT of stencils with a kilo. Like, a whole lot. :)

Shoot, a fella could have a pretty good weekend in Vegas with all that stuff.
Title: Re: Another lazy finishing technique
Post by: nzCdog on February 27, 2018, 06:58:26 AM
Quote from: culturejam on February 26, 2018, 01:18:50 AM

(https://i.imgur.com/Nk1HkN6.jpg)

Bazinga!  That's super cool... so ezy even nzCdog could do it!  ;D
Title: Re: Another lazy finishing technique
Post by: davent on February 27, 2018, 07:00:57 PM
For years i've used transluscent frisket film from art supply stores for making stencils, cuts easily with an xacto knife, adhesive backed and releases easy. Works great with acrylic paints, no idea if it can be used with the nastier solvents of rattle can paints, possibly.

dave
Title: Re: Another lazy finishing technique
Post by: stringsthings on February 28, 2018, 07:02:39 AM
Quote from: culturejam on February 26, 2018, 01:18:50 AM
Got the idea while chasing my kid through Joann Fabric the other day. I saw these cool disk things that looked like they would make for a neat rattle can stencil. Apparently this things are called a "plastic canvas".

(https://i.imgur.com/Nk1HkN6.jpg)

That turned out great! 
Title: Re: Another lazy finishing technique
Post by: culturejam on February 28, 2018, 01:29:14 PM
Shot some clear over the box and it looks pretty good. It's shiny but not over-the-top shiny.

I have a populated Belton II reverb board that I designed a few years back for a client who never ended up using it, so I I think I'll put it in this box. And I'll laser-etch the control labels onto the knobs just for fun.
Title: Re: Another lazy finishing technique
Post by: sjaustin on February 28, 2018, 02:21:59 PM
That's a creative idea and a great result. Cool!
Title: Re: Another lazy finishing technique
Post by: drezdn on February 28, 2018, 07:04:57 PM
Well done!
Title: Re: Another lazy finishing technique
Post by: brianq41369 on March 04, 2018, 06:08:01 AM
Still trying to figure out what part of lazy you're talking about? Looks pretty darn imaginative to me? Perfect texture!


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Title: Re: Another lazy finishing technique
Post by: brianq41369 on March 04, 2018, 06:08:34 AM
Still trying to figure out what part of lazy you're talking about? Looks pretty darn imaginative to me? Perfect texture!


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Title: Re: Another lazy finishing technique
Post by: brianq41369 on March 04, 2018, 06:09:16 AM
Still trying to figure out what part of lazy you're talking about? Looks pretty darn imaginative to me? Perfect texture!


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Title: Re: Another lazy finishing technique
Post by: culturejam on March 10, 2018, 09:38:22 PM
Well, this is annoying. I put painter's tape on the enclosure and marked and drilled. Then when I pulled the tape off, it pulled off most of the pattern and clear coat with it. Pic below.

Decided to to just "go wild" over top of what was left. I'll be showing that off in the completed build post.

I suspect this issue is a combination of the type of paint and clear combined with the powdercoat. Clearly it didn't stick so well (although I'll have to say the painter's tape is a bit tackier than most I've used).

(https://i.imgur.com/JNAUx99.jpg?1)
Title: Re: Another lazy finishing technique
Post by: madbean on March 10, 2018, 11:28:47 PM
Might as well go all the way. Light it on fire for a few seconds!
Title: Re: Another lazy finishing technique
Post by: stringsthings on March 10, 2018, 11:39:48 PM
Quote from: madbean on March 10, 2018, 11:28:47 PM
Might as well go all the way. Light it on fire for a few seconds!

:D
Title: Re: Another lazy finishing technique
Post by: TheDude on March 11, 2018, 04:08:08 AM
Quote from: madbean on March 10, 2018, 11:28:47 PM
Might as well go all the way. Light it on fire for a few seconds!
I concur!

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Title: Re: Another lazy finishing technique
Post by: davent on March 11, 2018, 04:41:07 AM
Fire would probably just obliterate the paint and may not do anything to the powder coat.

dave
Title: Re: Another lazy finishing technique
Post by: blearyeyes on March 11, 2018, 08:42:52 PM
I saw an enclosure where the guy used a shotgun on it. Very post apocalyptic.
Title: Re: Another lazy finishing technique
Post by: blearyeyes on March 11, 2018, 08:43:25 PM
I saw an enclosure where the guy used a shotgun on it. Very post apocalyptic.
Title: Re: Another lazy finishing technique
Post by: davent on March 12, 2018, 12:37:44 AM
Quote from: blearyeyes on March 11, 2018, 08:43:25 PM
I saw an enclosure where the guy used a shotgun on it. Very post apocalyptic.

Sounds like Mike, Haveyouseenhim, i think...
dave
Title: Re: Another lazy finishing technique
Post by: Beedoola on March 15, 2018, 10:13:26 PM
That looks awesome. I think had the center cross be tapped over that would have been interesting. This gives me a lot of ideas for enclosure finishing. Thanks!
Title: Re: Another lazy finishing technique
Post by: ahiddentableau on March 18, 2018, 08:06:51 AM
I'm totally a late comer to this, but that technique is the cat's backside!  Love it!

Has anyone tried out any other items in the meantime that they think turned out well?
Title: Re: Another lazy finishing technique
Post by: joltjrs on March 19, 2018, 04:15:32 PM
i used a gasket for an automatic transmission valve body to the same effect.
Title: Re: Another lazy finishing technique
Post by: davent on March 19, 2018, 06:15:06 PM
Used heavy non slip drawer liner to get a carbon fibre type effect an a tube amp project.

dave

edit;
Photos here are from photobucket, i can still see them but they might not show up if your browser doesn't have a photobucket work around. http://www.madbeanpedals.com/forum/index.php?topic=17891.msg171853#msg171853