Anyone know anything about the Dark Echo? to me it sounds like a pt2399 based delay- and it has 450ms of delay time, which would make it longer than a single 3005 and shorter than a dual... and definitely shorter than another digital chip.
can anyone confirm this?
what about the sweet modulation circuit? sounds like a very slow "swaying" modulation- seems kinda unique. I'd love to learn more about it as I'm trying to implement some sort of cool modulation into a pt2399+boost pedal.
thanks!
I remember that it was supposed to be PT2399, but it had some sort of secret to it, so perhaps it wasn't. That was a good number of years ago now. I think we had a non-verbal agreement setup that it was a project we weren't going to clone, but I don't remember why.
Perhaps one of the other guys (CJ? Brian?) might remember more than me.
Jacob
Yes, it's PT2399-based. I had one but didn't trace it out of respect for Jack Deville...well, that and it's on a 4-layer board and was well beyond my skills in 2012. The LFO's single control simultaneously adjusts speed and depth, but inversely. So low depth + high speed on one end, and deep and slow on the other.
Here's what Jack said at FSB after I posted gut shots:
Quote from: Jack DevilleTwo dual opamps in the circuit. Opamps on the DC jack side of the board create the oscillator, which is a simple, yet cool and stable circuit. Here are a few hints: sway control at minimum, oscillator shuts off. Sway control at maximum, oscillator frequency is at minimum.
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The real prize in that circuit is the modulation control circuit. No current wasting LED/opto rig. Nope. This one is hipper and more obscure than that. ;D
Gut shot attached because it's so purty.
Actually, looking back at the FSB thread, Jack said it was only a 2-layer board. Still, beyond my chops 5+ years ago.
wow- thats a layout right there. how tf do you even arrange something like that lol. i cant believe those pedals are going for less than $100 used.
IIRC the LFO is done by varying the resistor from the output of the LFO to the non-inverting input of the schmitt, despite it being a nice solution to having one knob modulation personally I never found it that useful though, I prefer slower rates to have a lower depth and vice versa.
OOT
just amazed look at layout, beautiful OCD! love it
what trannies is that? and function?
Quote from: Scruffie on October 11, 2017, 12:03:21 AM
IIRC the LFO is done by varying the resistor from the output of the LFO to the non-inverting input of the schmitt, despite it being a nice solution to having one knob modulation personally I never found it that useful though, I prefer slower rates to have a lower depth and vice versa.
you may be the only one- it is very commong for people to want slow speed high depth and faster speed lower depth on modulation effects. but to each his own! I just thought it sounded better than most modulation circuits
His layouts are always unreal.
Quote from: claytushaywood on October 11, 2017, 12:34:10 AM
Quote from: Scruffie on October 11, 2017, 12:03:21 AM
IIRC the LFO is done by varying the resistor from the output of the LFO to the non-inverting input of the schmitt, despite it being a nice solution to having one knob modulation personally I never found it that useful though, I prefer slower rates to have a lower depth and vice versa.
you may be the only one- it is very commong for people to want slow speed high depth and faster speed lower depth on modulation effects. but to each his own! I just thought it sounded better than most modulation circuits
Ah, yes, for a standard modulation pedal I do prefer it that way and there it's useful, I mean strictly for modulation of a delay.