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Title: Aquaboy with dual MN3005 and modulation
Post by: Boba7 on March 16, 2017, 02:55:32 PM
So here's another Aquaboy!

It was quite a lot of work I must admit, but what a BEAUTIFUL delay!

It runs at 15v from a Road rage board, except for the modulation board and the bypass board that run at 9v. The depth pot is 500kb (I used a tayda LDR and red led) with R8 being 1M and R5 2k I believe (faster speed). The modulation is footswitchable. The on/off led also indicates the modulation rate.
On the delay board, C10 is 220nf (standard), R13 and 14 are 56k (giving 7.5v on pin7 of the SA571n), and I've replaced R30 with a 100k trimpot.

I started with just one MN3005 chip, biased it and then decided to add another one with a daughterboard. It was fairly easy to bias, although it took quite some time. The headroom is great I think.

And the sound is just so beautiful, loads of mids (compared to a dark voiced PT2399 delay), a little grainy, a great character. I will oscillate but not until the feedback pot is around 3 (depending also on the time pot of course). The modulation is beautiful too, and much necessary in my opinion to give more space and magic to the repeats.

It was a long build, but not too difficult, and I must say again I'm very impressed with the boards. What a great job, THANKS!!

Decided to go for a reverse enclosure, not entirely sure I should have, it looked better in my mind, but oh well, it just sounds so great. Stazon ink and stamps, a few layers of coat, that's it. Oh yeah and of course, top jacks! :)

Title: Re: Aquaboy with dual MN3005 and modulation
Post by: dan.schumaker on March 16, 2017, 03:00:09 PM
Looks great!  Looks like you are the first one to add a dual MN3005 board to your build.  There is a lot of awesome delay going on in a small box  :)
Title: Re: Aquaboy with dual MN3005 and modulation
Post by: bsoncini on March 16, 2017, 07:27:06 PM
Nice. I'm gonna need to try this with mine.
Title: Re: Aquaboy with dual MN3005 and modulation
Post by: cajone5 on March 16, 2017, 11:02:10 PM
awesome work !  8)
Title: Re: Aquaboy with dual MN3005 and modulation
Post by: CurlyMo on March 16, 2017, 11:43:13 PM
That. Is. Awesome.

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Title: Re: Aquaboy with dual MN3005 and modulation
Post by: Philthy on March 17, 2017, 12:08:01 AM
Lovely
Title: Re: Aquaboy with dual MN3005 and modulation
Post by: Jmilla on March 17, 2017, 12:44:04 AM
That is awesome, I'm too chicken to try one of these.
Title: Re: Aquaboy with dual MN3005 and modulation
Post by: JC103 on March 17, 2017, 12:52:06 AM
What does the extra MN3005 do for the sound? Longer max delay time or more headroom?
Title: Re: Aquaboy with dual MN3005 and modulation
Post by: AntKnee on March 17, 2017, 01:54:16 AM
I like how you used the bottom of the enclosure as the top. Interesting idea.
Title: Re: Aquaboy with dual MN3005 and modulation
Post by: jubal81 on March 17, 2017, 05:22:34 AM
Wow, that is seriously impressive!
Title: Re: Aquaboy with dual MN3005 and modulation
Post by: LaceSensor on March 17, 2017, 09:54:45 AM
Very nice, cohesive build.

Title: Re: Aquaboy with dual MN3005 and modulation
Post by: Boba7 on March 17, 2017, 10:34:49 AM
Thanks guys!

Forgot to say the bypass board is from TH Custom and was used in 2 different builds some time ago, hence the slightly burnt pads...

Quote from: JC103 on March 17, 2017, 12:52:06 AM
What does the extra MN3005 do for the sound? Longer max delay time or more headroom?

With only one chip the maximum "clean" delay time was something like 270ms, now it's around 550ms without too much aliasing noise. I could definitely see the charm of having only 300ms or so but decided that I wanted more... :)
Title: Re: Aquaboy with dual MN3005 and modulation
Post by: bluescage on March 20, 2017, 03:08:18 PM
Very nice build!
Title: Re: Aquaboy with dual MN3005 and modulation
Post by: Dminner on March 21, 2017, 08:51:41 PM
What size enclosure is that?  I have never seen a smaller one with 6 screws.
Title: Re: Aquaboy with dual MN3005 and modulation
Post by: Cortexturizer on March 22, 2017, 09:33:04 AM
love everything about this
Title: Re: Aquaboy with dual MN3005 and modulation
Post by: Rockhorst on March 22, 2017, 09:47:18 AM
Could you post a side shot of the lid, so we can see the sandwich?
Title: Re: Aquaboy with dual MN3005 and modulation
Post by: Boba7 on March 22, 2017, 11:01:24 AM
Quote from: Dminner on March 21, 2017, 08:51:41 PM
What size enclosure is that?  I have never seen a smaller one with 6 screws.

It's an equivalent to Hammond 1590P1, Musikding has them as "size P" I think. It's a really nice size I think. I used one for my modulating Moodring (see here though I never posted a pic of the finished pedal: http://www.madbeanpedals.com/forum/index.php?topic=23642.0)

And thanks guys! I will take a pic of the sandwich when I can.

Actually I also just added an always on Klon buffer in front of the circuit, cause with some boost/od (my Lavache and Fatpants) you could hear the clock and the lfo going in the background. And with the buffer it's now totally silent.
Title: Re: Aquaboy with dual MN3005 and modulation
Post by: Boba7 on March 27, 2017, 10:42:06 AM
Here's the side shot also showing the new klon buffer I added at the input jack (always on)
That's one thing I love about the enclosure size: it's high! :) But not too high though. It's a really nice size.
Title: Re: Aquaboy with dual MN3005 and modulation
Post by: Boba7 on March 27, 2017, 11:33:15 AM
Quote from: Rockhorst on March 22, 2017, 09:47:18 AM
Could you post a side shot of the lid, so we can see the sandwich?

The wiring was a bit less messy before adding the Klon buffer, but oh well, you got the sandwich! :)
Title: Re: Aquaboy with dual MN3005 and modulation
Post by: bluescage on March 28, 2017, 06:57:02 AM
That is a very nice build! Great job!
Title: Re: Aquaboy with dual MN3005 and modulation
Post by: Coda-effects on March 28, 2017, 08:28:45 PM
Really impressive build!
Congrats!
Title: Re: Aquaboy with dual MN3005 and modulation
Post by: warriorpoet on April 01, 2017, 05:26:30 AM
I'm very interested in doing this with my 15v build. Do you have a link to the 2x MN3005 vero layout, by any chance?

Excellent work!
Title: Re: Aquaboy with dual MN3005 and modulation
Post by: Boba7 on April 01, 2017, 05:40:43 AM
Thanks guys!

Warriorpoet, there you go:
(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/857007DualMN3005layout.png) (http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=857007DualMN3005layout.png)
Title: Re: Aquaboy with dual MN3005 and modulation
Post by: dwhacks on December 17, 2017, 03:58:37 AM
I know this topic is a few days old, but I'm following the same route. First I built the Aquaboy stock, then 15v version, then modulation, and soon I'll be doing the dual MN3005.

My question is, after adding the modulation, I notice a lot of clock noise when the effect is bypassed but the modulation switch is still in the on position. What about you? Do you notice clock noise in this scenario? I have tried moving wires around and it doesn't seem to get any better. I've already had to use a wire direct from the stomp switch to the output jack because the pads on the board were giving me clock noise even in the stock configuration.
Title: Re: Aquaboy with dual MN3005 and modulation
Post by: Boba7 on December 17, 2017, 12:56:24 PM
Quote from: dwhacks on December 17, 2017, 03:58:37 AM
I know this topic is a few days old, but I'm following the same route. First I built the Aquaboy stock, then 15v version, then modulation, and soon I'll be doing the dual MN3005.

My question is, after adding the modulation, I notice a lot of clock noise when the effect is bypassed but the modulation switch is still in the on position. What about you? Do you notice clock noise in this scenario? I have tried moving wires around and it doesn't seem to get any better. I've already had to use a wire direct from the stomp switch to the output jack because the pads on the board were giving me clock noise even in the stock configuration.

Yes there was definitely clock noise in my build, so I put a Klon buffer right at the input (I wrote about it in my messages just above), and got rid of the noise!
I played it the other day (I gave it to a musician friend) and it's really a very cool delay!!