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General => Open Discussion => Topic started by: A1Full on October 07, 2016, 03:58:09 PM

Title: TAPTATION BAD?
Post by: A1Full on October 07, 2016, 03:58:09 PM
It is possible, that is not as accurate Tap the pot 41100? this has 256 steps, and I think that is just for good, accuracy when setting the tempo
this is correct?
Title: Re: TAPTATION BAD?
Post by: A1Full on October 09, 2016, 03:10:45 PM
no one has checked this? you bought your brian?
Title: Re: TAPTATION BAD?
Post by: m-Kresol on October 09, 2016, 03:44:48 PM
I'm sorry, but I don't understand what your question is. What project are you talking about? Brian does not have any tap tempo projects for the taptation chip if I'm not mistaken. He has got some for the taplfo chip though
Title: Re: TAPTATION BAD?
Post by: A1Full on October 10, 2016, 04:31:14 PM
Quote from: m-Kresol on October 09, 2016, 03:44:48 PM
I'm sorry, but I don't understand what your question is. What project are you talking about? Brian does not have any tap tempo projects for the taptation chip if I'm not mistaken. He has got some for the taplfo chip though

I think I saw some project, but I guess they know and insurance have used it, so I wonder.
Title: Re: TAPTATION BAD?
Post by: jkokura on October 10, 2016, 05:14:57 PM
The Taptation is accurate. Digital pots are not always accurate.

Jacob
Title: Re: TAPTATION BAD?
Post by: chuckd666 on October 11, 2016, 08:48:57 AM
I built a Hamlet+ from your board Jacob and had this issue where the repeats were faster than what was tapped. The LED was in time however. I tried a bunch of PT2399s and a bunch of digipots. Still no go.. have you had anyone else report that issue?
Title: Re: TAPTATION BAD?
Post by: jkokura on October 11, 2016, 07:45:14 PM
The issue is related to the digital pot. The Taptation is essentially generic but precise, meaning it puts out the same thing chip to chip. Digital pots have variance, meaning that chip to chip they're not identical.

I have occasionally had the same issue. It's normal and to be expected.

Jacob
Title: Re: TAPTATION BAD?
Post by: chuckd666 on October 12, 2016, 02:12:42 AM
Cool, thanks for the intel. I bought a bunch of 5x of these a while back when I was troubleshooting: http://au.rs-online.com/web/p/digital-potentiometers/0403654/

I had the same issue with all of them. Is there another model that would be more precise that you're aware of?
Title: Re: TAPTATION BAD?
Post by: jkokura on October 12, 2016, 03:45:30 PM
Usually they come in batches, so chances are high if you bought 5 at the same time than they are all the same, and don't match up well with the Taptation. I've experienced where i bought 10 of them, and all 10 of them were no good because they lagged. It's interesting that this application is so fussy about the value of the digital pot.

I would try another supplier for only 2, if you're willing. If you find that it doesn't help, you could also try emailing the DIYSB guys you got the Taptation from, and seeing if you could get them to supply you with a better match.

Jacob
Title: Re: TAPTATION BAD?
Post by: chuckd666 on October 13, 2016, 08:26:04 AM
Thanks for the suggestions Jacob! I'll definitely look into it. :)
Title: Re: TAPTATION BAD?
Post by: Boba7 on October 13, 2016, 11:06:19 AM
I also had issues with PT2399 not syncing correctly with the taptation circuit. Tayda PT2399 mostly. They weren't synced to the tapped tempo or the tempo led. Then when I tried a better/verified PT2399 it was all good.

So check your PT2399 too.
Title: Re: TAPTATION BAD?
Post by: chuckd666 on October 17, 2016, 12:02:40 PM
Yeah I've sourced multiple PT2399s as well from different sources, it's weird.. got some bad luck. Will keep trying.