Now that some envirotexing has been going for a bit, I was wondering what everyone's comments might be regarding the durability and finish of your ET'd pedals now that you've used and abused them. Please share your experiences. Thanks!
Surprisingly, it hasn't yellowed yet, although I expect there will be some over time.
Quote from: pickdropper on October 20, 2014, 04:23:53 PM
Surprisingly, it hasn't yellowed yet, although I expect there will be some over time.
Out of curiosity, how long has the ET been in place without yellowing?
Quote from: AntKnee on October 21, 2014, 01:15:42 PM
Quote from: pickdropper on October 20, 2014, 04:23:53 PM
Surprisingly, it hasn't yellowed yet, although I expect there will be some over time.
Out of curiosity, how long has the ET been in place without yellowing?
Probably at least a year. It's not completely clear, but I don't think it's significantly more yellow.
Still, most epoxy does yellow over time (some faster than others). Envirotex is like the poured epoxy they use on bar tops, although I am not sure if it's the exact same formulation.
Same stuff as the bartop epoxy IIRC. Ours haven't yellowed and we've been using it a lomg time now (over two years). Some of the decals underneath have suffered from UV though. But that's the ink I've used.
Since 99% of mine are dark pedals if there is some yellowing I can't see it. I did my first one in 2011 I think and all is well. I don't abuse mine much though being a home hacker so someone who gigs might have a take on how well it holds up to smacking around, beer spillage and nacho cheese stains.
I still suspect that the Envirotex will yellow over time. Exposure to UV is the primary cause of the yellowing. Some epoxies are less susceptible to it, but I am not familiar with any that are immune.
A good experiment would be to take a scrap enclosure and cover it with epoxy and then put it outside in the sun. You could then compare it with a build that was epoxied at the same time and stored indoors.
There are a couple of other pour-on epoxy manufacturers that both claim to be less susceptible to yellowing than Envirotex Lite is. One of them, ArtResin actually did a UV test with all three epoxies. More info below.
http://www.artresin.com/2013/04/6-month-uv-yellowing-test-results/
http://eti-usa.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/20130214-ConcreteCounterTops.pdf
http://eti-usa.com/ex-74-uv/
Quote from: pickdropper on October 23, 2014, 04:39:38 PM
I still suspect that the Envirotex will yellow over time. Exposure to UV is the primary cause of the yellowing. Some epoxies are less susceptible to it, but I am not familiar with any that are immune.
A good experiment would be to take a scrap enclosure and cover it with epoxy and then put it outside in the sun. You could then compare it with a build that was epoxied at the same time and stored indoors.
There are a couple of other pour-on epoxy manufacturers that both claim to be less susceptible to yellowing than Envirotex Lite is. One of them, ArtResin actually did a UV test with all three epoxies. More info below.
http://www.artresin.com/2013/04/6-month-uv-yellowing-test-results/
http://eti-usa.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/20130214-ConcreteCounterTops.pdf
http://eti-usa.com/ex-74-uv/
Mask off half of the tanning enclosure so it receives no UV rays then you'l have a direct comparison.
Quote from: pickdropper on October 23, 2014, 04:39:38 PM
I still suspect that the Envirotex will yellow over time. Exposure to UV is the primary cause of the yellowing. Some epoxies are less susceptible to it, but I am not familiar with any that are immune.
A good experiment would be to take a scrap enclosure and cover it with epoxy and then put it outside in the sun. You could then compare it with a build that was epoxied at the same time and stored indoors.
There are a couple of other pour-on epoxy manufacturers that both claim to be less susceptible to yellowing than Envirotex Lite is. One of them, ArtResin actually did a UV test with all three epoxies. More info below.
http://www.artresin.com/2013/04/6-month-uv-yellowing-test-results/
http://eti-usa.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/20130214-ConcreteCounterTops.pdf
http://eti-usa.com/ex-74-uv/
Also I ended up switching to Park's Glaze from Home Depot the last couple years due to ease of getting it for me. I never did compare the exact ingredients and percentages to each. The performance was the same though in putting it on.
Quote from: davent on October 23, 2014, 06:09:34 PM
Quote from: pickdropper on October 23, 2014, 04:39:38 PM
I still suspect that the Envirotex will yellow over time. Exposure to UV is the primary cause of the yellowing. Some epoxies are less susceptible to it, but I am not familiar with any that are immune.
A good experiment would be to take a scrap enclosure and cover it with epoxy and then put it outside in the sun. You could then compare it with a build that was epoxied at the same time and stored indoors.
There are a couple of other pour-on epoxy manufacturers that both claim to be less susceptible to yellowing than Envirotex Lite is. One of them, ArtResin actually did a UV test with all three epoxies. More info below.
http://www.artresin.com/2013/04/6-month-uv-yellowing-test-results/
http://eti-usa.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/20130214-ConcreteCounterTops.pdf
http://eti-usa.com/ex-74-uv/
Mask off half of the tanning enclosure so it receives no UV rays then you'l have a direct comparison.
Yeah, that's a good idea.
The covered side might still yellow more than the indoor one due to the heat, but it'd be nice to know for certain.