madbeanpedals::forum

Projects => Tech Help - Projects Page => Topic started by: sdlogan9 on June 23, 2014, 09:48:37 PM

Title: Kingslayer II Help!!!! IC Voltage's Added!!!
Post by: sdlogan9 on June 23, 2014, 09:48:37 PM
So I got the build all finished up and put together.

While the pedal is in bypass I am getting a very loud Motor boat / Whine sound although the guitar signal is working... 

When the effect is engaged I get nothing... nada..zero! :'(   --   Except the LED does work 8)

Help!

Do you think the IC's are bad?

(http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a103/sdlogan9/Debug%20PCB/44a1f1d0-6bbc-4dae-b27d-f072874feac5_zps36ed90c4.jpg) (http://s10.photobucket.com/user/sdlogan9/media/Debug%20PCB/44a1f1d0-6bbc-4dae-b27d-f072874feac5_zps36ed90c4.jpg.html)(http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a103/sdlogan9/Debug%20PCB/photo1_zps1a448d15.jpg) (http://s10.photobucket.com/user/sdlogan9/media/Debug%20PCB/photo1_zps1a448d15.jpg.html)(http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a103/sdlogan9/Debug%20PCB/photo3_zpsf5dbb040.jpg) (http://s10.photobucket.com/user/sdlogan9/media/Debug%20PCB/photo3_zpsf5dbb040.jpg.html)(http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a103/sdlogan9/Debug%20PCB/photo2_zps15a28410.jpg) (http://s10.photobucket.com/user/sdlogan9/media/Debug%20PCB/photo2_zps15a28410.jpg.html)(http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a103/sdlogan9/Debug%20PCB/photo1_zps45ff076c.jpg) (http://s10.photobucket.com/user/sdlogan9/media/Debug%20PCB/photo1_zps45ff076c.jpg.html)

Title: Re: Kingslayer II Help!!!!
Post by: oldhousescott on June 23, 2014, 09:56:16 PM
Got a DMM? Post your voltages for each IC pin in this thread. That should get the ball rolling.
Title: Re: Kingslayer II Help!!!!
Post by: sdlogan9 on June 23, 2014, 10:34:01 PM
Quote from: oldhousescott on June 23, 2014, 09:56:16 PM
Got a DMM? Post your voltages for each IC pin in this thread. That should get the ball rolling.


IC Voltages Added!!!

Thanks for the help man!

-Shane
Title: Re: Kingslayer II Help!!!! IC Voltage's Added!!!
Post by: madbean on June 23, 2014, 11:25:56 PM
Can we get a close up of this area, flat on?
Title: Re: Kingslayer II Help!!!! IC Voltage's Added!!!
Post by: sdlogan9 on June 23, 2014, 11:45:33 PM
Quote from: madbean on June 23, 2014, 11:25:56 PM
Can we get a close up of this area, flat on?

Here you go!

(http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a103/sdlogan9/Debug%20PCB/696cadff-6f70-4c3d-99da-f67a7b5f3fb8_zps2e7ee6f8.jpg) (http://s10.photobucket.com/user/sdlogan9/media/Debug%20PCB/696cadff-6f70-4c3d-99da-f67a7b5f3fb8_zps2e7ee6f8.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Kingslayer II Help!!!! IC Voltage's Added!!!
Post by: sdlogan9 on June 23, 2014, 11:48:43 PM
(http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a103/sdlogan9/Debug%20PCB/b5b7fffc-eb24-4140-815d-5bc667d34fe1_zps616e944c.jpg) (http://s10.photobucket.com/user/sdlogan9/media/Debug%20PCB/b5b7fffc-eb24-4140-815d-5bc667d34fe1_zps616e944c.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Kingslayer II Help!!!! IC Voltage's Added!!!
Post by: sdlogan9 on June 24, 2014, 01:31:22 AM
Ok so I found a real small solder bridge and all is perfect!!!   Except one thing..

When I turn the Gain all the way off..  I get the whine.   If the gain is turned up even just a half a millimeter the sound goes away immediately !!

I think I have read about this issue in other places..

Do i need to use a different charge pump?

Peace
Shane
Title: Kingslayer II Help!!!! IC Voltage's Added!!!
Post by: Mike B. on June 24, 2014, 01:37:00 AM
Shane, your charge pump should have the "SCPA" designation, which means it switches at a frequency higher than audible range. The "CPA" chips switch at a lower freq which can be heard as a whine.

EDIT: looking at your pics I see your charge pump is an SCPA. Maybe swap it with a known good one. If that doesn't help, check your power filtering.
Title: Re: Kingslayer II Help!!!! IC Voltage's Added!!!
Post by: sdlogan9 on June 24, 2014, 01:39:30 AM
Quote from: Mike B. on June 24, 2014, 01:37:00 AM
Shane, your charge pump should have the "SCPA" designation, which means it switches at a frequency higher than audible range. The "CPA" chips switch at a lower freq which can be heard as a whine.

The Charge pump in the pedal is a TC1044SCPA From Mouser.  Is this the correct one? 

-Shane
Title: Re: Kingslayer II Help!!!! IC Voltage's Added!!!
Post by: Mike B. on June 24, 2014, 01:45:41 AM

Quote from: sdlogan9 on June 24, 2014, 01:39:30 AM
Quote from: Mike B. on June 24, 2014, 01:37:00 AM
Shane, your charge pump should have the "SCPA" designation, which means it switches at a frequency higher than audible range. The "CPA" chips switch at a lower freq which can be heard as a whine.

The Charge pump in the pedal is a TC1044SCPA From Mouser.  Is this the correct one? 

-Shane

Yeah sorry, wasn't fast enough with the edit - that should be fine. It's possible the chip got damaged though. I'd through a known good one in there temporarily just to eliminate it.