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Title: A Wee Drop Of Th' 'Eavy
Post by: alanp on January 26, 2014, 01:30:55 AM
I read something in an interview with the guitarist from Celtic Frost once. Never heard the band, but the quote stuck in my mind -- "it's the slow stuff that's heavy."

The _Dopesmoker_ album was heavy as hell. Earth is heavy. Sunn is in risk of imploding into a black hole of it's own.

What are some other great, great slow, heavy albums?
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Post by: selfdestroyer on January 26, 2014, 01:35:02 AM
The first Jesu album comes to mind. I'm sure I will think of more as the day goes on. TBC

Cody
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Post by: GrindCustoms on January 26, 2014, 03:01:17 AM
Celtic Frost... vintage kick ass Metulz band! lml

I think Tool and Deftones have done well in the departement of being slow and heavy.

One of my favorite -way to heavy for existence- band is Swan, pretty noisy.. but.. not a lot of band that i know come close to that heaviness.

Been a Neurosis fan for a long time too....

Jesu is solid! 8)
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Post by: ncdb07 on January 26, 2014, 03:08:17 AM
Type O Negative always comes to mind when I think slow and heavy
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Post by: lars on January 26, 2014, 03:13:47 AM
That's a great quote, and so true. It reminds me of a couple from Kim Thayil from Soundgarden:
on guitar solos:
"Most are annoying, self-indulgent," he said. "To me, a great guitar solo is Neil Young's on 'Cinammon Girl,' where he plays basically one note."

on his reason for doing what he does:
"I play guitar because I like to make loud noises. And the guitar is the coolest way to make a loud noise."
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Post by: jubal81 on January 26, 2014, 03:25:45 AM
I'd add Melvins and Helmet.
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Post by: jkokura on January 26, 2014, 04:57:00 AM
Quote from: lars on January 26, 2014, 03:13:47 AM
...Kim Thayil from Soundgarden...

And thinking about Soundgarden - Mailman, Black Hole Sun and Limo Wreck have always stuck out to me as some of their heaviest songs, and they're pretty slow too.

Jacob
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Post by: derevaun on January 26, 2014, 05:10:01 AM
I'm a big fan of Electric Wizard's Come My Fanatics album. It's too heavy to do much other than wallow in lazy Sabbath style riffage. OTOH, Boris' Heavy Rocks is thick and heavy but also a bit active and quirky.

Oh, and Pallbearer. Gotta be as heavy as you can get with telecasters :o
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Post by: selfdestroyer on January 26, 2014, 09:11:27 AM
I forgot about Bongripper.
Heres a great EP.
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Post by: Vallhagen on January 26, 2014, 09:29:51 AM
I use to namedrop four bands as my favourites of the nineties. One of them is Kings X, very slow, very musical, very heavy. Skip the first album, then check out the releases from 89 to 94, all brilliant.

Black Sabbath of course, but thats obvious.

Kyuss maybe? Tool...

Cheers

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Post by: juansolo on January 26, 2014, 10:29:39 AM
Quote from: derevaun on January 26, 2014, 05:10:01 AM
I'm a big fan of Electric Wizard's Come My Fanatics album. It's too heavy to do much other than wallow in lazy Sabbath style riffage. OTOH, Boris' Heavy Rocks is thick and heavy but also a bit active and quirky.

Oh, and Pallbearer. Gotta be as heavy as you can get with telecasters :o

I tried an Electric Wizard album recently and actually found it too heavy. I could only manage about half of it at a time before it became overwhelming. Impressive. Shame I didn't get on with it.
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Post by: Matt on January 26, 2014, 01:15:45 PM
I think Crowbar has to be mentioned here.  If you haven't heard it, check out their version of No Quarter.
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Post by: Marv Mod on January 26, 2014, 11:40:57 PM
Candlemass. So slow, so heavy!


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Post by: kaycee on January 27, 2014, 11:32:32 AM
Italian stoner group, Ufomammut, slow, sludgy and spacey. Try the Opus Primum album. Loop did some slower tracks now and then, Gilded Eternity album is a good one.
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Post by: juansolo on January 27, 2014, 01:59:24 PM
Quote from: kaycee on January 27, 2014, 11:32:32 AM
Italian stoner group, Ufomammut, slow, sludgy and spacey. Try the Opus Primum album. Loop did some slower tracks now and then, Gilded Eternity album is a good one.

Who are also the source of a lot of the borrowed artwork on my pedals (under the guise of Malleus).
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Post by: DutchMF on January 27, 2014, 04:55:36 PM
Pantera? They didn't do any songs that were slow all the way through, but when they did slow down, it was heavy as f*ck and still grooving. I like that band a lot!!

Paul
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Post by: sonarchotic on January 28, 2014, 02:25:48 AM
For me Neurosis are about as heavy as it gets. Isis has some seriously heavy shit too.
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Post by: selfdestroyer on January 28, 2014, 03:52:25 AM
You know, ever since this thread was started I have been listening to some bands i was really into a few years a go. I found that today, I am really into the music but the vocals are getting to me. Not sure what it is, I guess that's why I still love Bongripper since they are almost 100% instrumental but have some great heavy slow music. Hippie Killer & Hate Ashbury are the 2 albums I play the most by them.

Another note, I rely on Last.fm for "similar artist" most of the time and I always come out ahead. Just put in a band you like and check out the "similar artist" section.

Cody
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Post by: evildead222 on January 28, 2014, 03:55:58 AM
If you like sleep you would loooooovve Electric Wizard!
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Post by: the3secondrule on January 28, 2014, 07:52:47 PM
Harvey Milk. Check the video. Honourable mention for Beatles and VU references ;p



Also, part chimp:


Title: Re: A Wee Drop Of Th' 'Eavy
Post by: alanp on February 06, 2014, 01:04:55 AM
I'll add Boris to this list. Looked 'em up 'cos I read a few reviews that mentioned them in connection with Sunn O))). _Amplifier Worship_ is amazing.
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Post by: neve1272 on February 06, 2014, 02:16:15 AM
ok i hate you guys just spent too much on itunes
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Post by: alanp on February 06, 2014, 04:45:51 AM
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Post by: evildead222 on February 07, 2014, 03:40:22 PM
Boris is AWESOME!!! That orange stack wata has is amazing.
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Post by: alanp on February 08, 2014, 04:34:50 AM
A thought occurred to me.

What IS "heavy" music?

Sunn O)))'s "Agkartha" is undeniably heavy. Neutronium heavy.

But, taken as a whole, _The Final Cut_ by the Floyd is also heavy, in just how psychologically damaged it is, sometimes. Not to mention _The Wall_.

I'm now curious as to what you guys think makes music heavy.
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Post by: RobA on February 08, 2014, 05:21:43 AM
Quote from: alanp on February 08, 2014, 04:34:50 AM
A thought occurred to me.

What IS "heavy" music?

Sunn O)))'s "Agkartha" is undeniably heavy. Neutronium heavy.

But, taken as a whole, _The Final Cut_ by the Floyd is also heavy, in just how psychologically damaged it is, sometimes. Not to mention _The Wall_.

I'm now curious as to what you guys think makes music heavy.
Funny coincidence, I was listening to Welcome to the Machine today in the car and thought to myself, "now that's heavy."

But heavy in a metal sorta way, Motörhead's March or Die.
Title: Re: A Wee Drop Of Th' 'Eavy
Post by: sonarchotic on February 08, 2014, 02:23:45 PM
Quote from: alanp on February 08, 2014, 04:34:50 AM
A thought occurred to me.

What IS "heavy" music?

Sunn O)))'s "Agkartha" is undeniably heavy. Neutronium heavy.

But, taken as a whole, _The Final Cut_ by the Floyd is also heavy, in just how psychologically damaged it is, sometimes. Not to mention _The Wall_.

I'm now curious as to what you guys think makes music heavy.
It's a subjective term but to me it means 'dense'. Whether it's spiritually, emotionally, mentally, physically or all the above. The band Low can be as heavy to me as any heavy band though they are not by the usual definition 'heavy'.  And by the flip of that there are plenty of loud, detuned, screaming bands that I don't think are heavy at all. Whether it's because they lack originality or passion I don't know but I do know there is no set formula for it for me. It just has to hit me.
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Post by: alanp on February 12, 2014, 05:33:36 AM
Dear God in Heaven... if you like heavy music, and you haven't heard Earth's "Earth 2: Special Low Frequency Version", then you need to get it. Somehow.

The standout track for me is "Like Gold And Faceted". How to sum it up... meditate to a A chord, feeding back on itself, with the universe drifting in and out of sync to it, for thirty minutes straight.
Title: Re: A Wee Drop Of Th' 'Eavy
Post by: alanp on February 15, 2014, 02:42:55 AM
Quote from: selfdestroyer on January 26, 2014, 09:11:27 AM
I forgot about Bongripper.
Heres a great EP.

Sorry for the lateness of this reply, but something has been bugging me. (Great link, btw).

What part of England is Ashbury in? Sounds like it's english. And the world is full of teenagers and young adults who hate the smalltime little hole of a town they live in...
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Post by: jtn191 on February 16, 2014, 06:38:00 AM
I love Earth. They were recommended by the same person who liked Pallbearer. Makes my brain/soul hurt

fyi dylan carlson supposedly owned Cobain's shotgun...those are some heavy feelings
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Post by: catfud on February 16, 2014, 09:44:57 AM
Quote from: alanp on February 15, 2014, 02:42:55 AM
What part of England is Ashbury in? Sounds like it's english. And the world is full of teenagers and young adults who hate the smalltime little hole of a town they live in...
I suspect it's referring to Haight Ashbury (San Francisco) which is well known for its hippie subculture.
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Post by: selfdestroyer on February 16, 2014, 07:52:43 PM
Quote from: catfud on February 16, 2014, 09:44:57 AM
Quote from: alanp on February 15, 2014, 02:42:55 AM
What part of England is Ashbury in? Sounds like it's english. And the world is full of teenagers and young adults who hate the smalltime little hole of a town they live in...
I suspect it's referring to Haight Ashbury (San Francisco) which is well known for its hippie subculture.
Thats what I thought also.