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General => Open Discussion => Topic started by: jimilee on November 15, 2013, 09:37:33 PM

Title: KOT?
Post by: jimilee on November 15, 2013, 09:37:33 PM
 So I am looking for  KOT to build. clones seem to be taboo to talk about out loud. I found a vero layout, does anyone have a board fabbed or otherwise?
Title: Re: KOT?
Post by: Mike B. on November 15, 2013, 10:11:33 PM
You can always use two Bluesbreaker boards in a pinch. Several folks make that board in a fabbed version - Rej, Aion, GGG, Tonepad
Title: Re: KOT?
Post by: jimilee on November 15, 2013, 10:13:47 PM
Quote from: Mike B. on November 15, 2013, 10:11:33 PM
You can always use two Bluesbreaker boards in a pinch. Several folks make that board in a fabbed version - Rej, Aion, GGG, Tonepad
Cool, thank you.
Title: Re: KOT?
Post by: Matt on November 15, 2013, 11:07:17 PM
You want the Madbean Aristocrat ;)
Title: KOT?
Post by: jimilee on November 15, 2013, 11:55:04 PM
Quote from: Dc10 on November 15, 2013, 11:07:17 PM
You want the Madbean Aristocrat ;)
yes please, do you have the build docs?
Title: Re: KOT?
Post by: croquet hoop on November 16, 2013, 12:21:40 AM
http://www.madbeanpedals.com/projects/Aristocrat/docs/Aristocrat.pdf
http://www.madbeanpedals.com/projects/KingOfKlones/docs/KingOfKlones.pdf
Title: Re: KOT?
Post by: playpunk on November 16, 2013, 01:45:11 AM
I built the aion kot. It sounds good in my test rig, but I am having popping problems, so I think my wiring is suspect
Title: Re: KOT?
Post by: Rockhorst on November 16, 2013, 01:55:36 PM
Shameless plug: I'm offering some modded Blues Breaker boards right here:

PCB Pre-order: Boost, Fuzz, OD and Clean Blend (http://www.madbeanpedals.com/forum/index.php?topic=12128.0)
Title: Re: KOT?
Post by: garfo on November 16, 2013, 02:38:33 PM
I have built the GGG Blues Breaker and made some minor changes to match closely to the KOT.
One thing I've noticed, and if anyone knows, the BB uses a 47pf cap to PIN 2 of the IC.What is this cap doing?The KOT uses a 100pf cap.Does this allow more or less highs in??At the mo I have a Silver Mica 68pf in there, did try a 10pf but it sounded very muffled and mid bassy...
Title: Re: KOT?
Post by: Rockhorst on November 16, 2013, 03:12:33 PM
@Garfo: yes, that capacitor rolls of some high end. Similar trick used in the feedback path of a Tube Screamer. The JHS Morning Glory has an additional switch that controls an extra capacitor in the 2nd feedback path, to roll off even more highs.
Title: Re: KOT?
Post by: garfo on November 16, 2013, 05:23:20 PM
Well, that is weird.With a 10pf cap it shouldn't sound muffled than with a 47 or a 100pf, or should it?When I tried the 10pf the overdrive became more bassy.
Title: Re: KOT?
Post by: RobA on November 16, 2013, 05:29:29 PM
Quote from: garfo on November 16, 2013, 05:23:20 PM
Well, that is weird.With a 10pf cap it shouldn't sound muffled than with a 47 or a 100pf, or should it?When I tried the 10pf the overdrive became more bassy.
The small pF caps in the feedback loop of an op amp gain stage are usually for stability. The cutoff frequency of the filter is usually well above the audible range for a guitar. Maybe the move to a 10pF cap let too much high frequency signal be amplified for that op amp at high gain and it caused the op amp to not perform well.
Title: Re: KOT?
Post by: garfo on November 16, 2013, 07:39:32 PM
I feel you ;D
Title: Re: KOT?
Post by: dannoceti on April 10, 2014, 02:06:39 AM
Can you still get the Aristocrat or will it come back?


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Title: Re: KOT?
Post by: Clayford on April 10, 2014, 02:15:42 AM
Ben has one too! built in charge pump to 18v, selectable. His demo is awesome, the board is quality, I need to get around to it.
Title: Re: KOT?
Post by: dannoceti on April 10, 2014, 02:19:51 AM
Thx Clayford, who is Ben or what's his website to order the board?


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Title: Re: KOT?
Post by: mjcyates on April 10, 2014, 02:22:33 AM
I highly recommend Ben's board. It sounds great.
http://www.rullywow.com/product/queen-of-bone-dual-overdrive-bare-pcb/

Title: Re: KOT?
Post by: dannoceti on April 10, 2014, 03:08:56 AM
Thx mjcyates, looks awesome, will order/build


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Title: Re: KOT?
Post by: brejna on April 10, 2014, 08:20:43 AM
Hey Jimi, I can send you mine layout (verified) with onboard pots if you want..
Brane
Title: Re: KOT?
Post by: dannoceti on April 10, 2014, 02:17:13 PM
Hey Brane can you send that to me as well?


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Title: Re: KOT?
Post by: brejna on April 10, 2014, 08:38:45 PM
Quote from: dannoceti on April 10, 2014, 02:17:13 PM
Hey Brane can you send that to me as well?


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offcourse
Title: Re: KOT?
Post by: jimilee on April 10, 2014, 10:00:52 PM

Quote from: brejna on April 10, 2014, 08:20:43 AM
Hey Jimi, I can send you mine layout (verified) with onboard pots if you want..
Brane
I've built 2 since I first posted this, and got 2 more boards since. Thank you sir.
Title: Re: KOT?
Post by: billstein on April 11, 2014, 04:03:37 AM

Quote from: brejna on April 10, 2014, 08:38:45 PM
Quote from: dannoceti on April 10, 2014, 02:17:13 PM
Hey Brane can you send that to me as well?


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offcourse

Not to be a pain but could I get one of these as well?
Title: Re: KOT?
Post by: jimilee on April 11, 2014, 04:07:52 AM
I posted a build report, haberdasher has something called a double take. It's a double blues breaker pm that guy:-D
Title: Re: KOT?
Post by: ddog on April 11, 2014, 04:16:32 AM
Quote from: brejna on April 10, 2014, 08:20:43 AM
Hey Jimi, I can send you mine layout (verified) with onboard pots if you want..
Brane

forgive my ignorance, but what kind of layout is this? Is it a vero layout?
Title: Re: KOT?
Post by: brejna on April 11, 2014, 09:20:58 AM
Quote from: jimilee on April 10, 2014, 10:00:52 PM

Quote from: brejna on April 10, 2014, 08:20:43 AM
Hey Jimi, I can send you mine layout (verified) with onboard pots if you want..
Brane
I've built 2 since I first posted this, and got 2 more boards since. Thank you sir.
Oh my bad, I didn't saw date of topic. :)
Title: Re: KOT?
Post by: brejna on April 11, 2014, 09:26:06 AM
Quote from: ddog on April 11, 2014, 04:16:32 AM
Quote from: brejna on April 10, 2014, 08:20:43 AM
Hey Jimi, I can send you mine layout (verified) with onboard pots if you want..
Brane

forgive my ignorance, but what kind of layout is this? Is it a vero layout?
no, it's not vero. it is layout for etching
Title: Re: KOT?
Post by: brejna on April 11, 2014, 09:36:23 AM
BTW here is link for 1S1588 diodes
http://www.ebay.com/itm/191098525899?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/191098525899?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649)